Cole is joined once again by Jordan Davidson, Government Affairs Director at Smart Approaches to Marijuana (SAM), for a fast-paced and surprisingly friendly debate on the future of cannabis and hemp policy. They cover everything from rescheduling rumors and the Texas THC fight, to whether cannabis should be legal, decriminalized, or something in between.
Jordan shares SAM’s official stance on intoxicating hemp products (spoiler: they want them banned), and Cole opens up about why he’s mostly stopped using cannabis—plus why that experience might challenge some of SAM’s core assumptions.
Whether you’re skeptical of Big Cannabis or fighting to free the plant, this episode digs into the nuances and contradictions of drug policy reform in 2025.
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