In this live episode, Cole Preston hosts a spirited debate between Jason Beck and Michael Malcolm. The discussion dives into the evolving cannabis policies of both Kamala Harris and Donald Trump, the implications of cannabis rescheduling, and the broader impact of political decisions on the cannabis industry. With differing views, the conversation covers everything from past records to recent statements, all while highlighting the complexities of navigating cannabis reform in today’s political climate.
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- High at Nine Live stream from 9/2/24 which discusses Harris’ flip flops on cannabis
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this episode of the coal memo was streamed live on YouTube we might do more live streams in the future if you want to get notified when we go live go to our YouTube channel And subscribe the easiest way to get there is at the memo.com YouTube Hey folks if you’re in Chicago land I’ve got an upcoming screening for my mini do it’s in Blue Island Illinois which like I just said is in Chicagoland so if you’re in the area come check it out you can get your tickets at Co memo.com minoc colo.com minoc is where you can get your tickets now you can also stream the mini documentary now if you go to co memo.com minoc to get tickets for public screenings just click public screenings or scroll down to the public screenings section you can see that many people have reviewed the mini do already and it’s gotten five star reviews once again you can watch it now on patreon for just $15 I do want to say that if you’re purchasing off of patreon do not purchase it from an iOS device purchase it off of your computer and then watch it on your iOS device the reason I say that is because Apple has added fees to any purchases you make on an iOS or Apple device so instead of paying the $15 flat you’d be paying $15 plus a little fee to Apple which is just not cool right uh so if you just want to pay $15 to see my mini do go to the memo.com minoc here’s a brief teaser at the mini do enjoy this teaser enjoy the episode beginning January 1st 2020 the recreational use of cannabis will be legal in the state of Illinois available to stream now my mini do dives into the history of Illinois legalization starting with January 1st what should we expect the biggest thing that we need people to understand is that January 1 in terms of the Criminal Justice System here in this state is the end of prohibition see how Illinois missed its chance at real cannabis reform with key failures including the fact that the program includes regulation on possession limits so people can still be arrested for a possession and I want to highlight that in its first year of legalized recreational marijuana in the state of Illinois they arrested three times as many black people for possession than any other race we’ve run into so much cannabis we’ve run out of places to put it I have represented people and taken their cases through the court system who got charged with more serious crimes only because the police said that they smelled cannabis and not because the police said you have a legal cannabis or not because you have too much cannabis or not because you’re high on cannabis but because I can smell it and that’s it attorney goes he understands that he can’t be smoking and his cannabis flower shouldn’t be open and I was like I’d like to say further record that I was not smoking and my flower was not open so uh that’s where we’re at right now in Illinois and I hope it changes start watching now at coal memo.com mini [Music] [Music] do and we are live streaming live we’re live it’s 4 o’clock on the dot here in chinois as some people say um I’m gonna text Mike Malcolm just to make sure that he’s all good on his end and I just want to say hello Jason Beck from high at9 news dude since we’re live why don’t you take it tell people about uh yourself in the platform uh yes uh thank you so much for having me today Cole I am uh Jason Beck the highest Republican in all of the land as as well as a uh Creator and host of Hiatt n news which is America’s number one daily Cannabis News show airing every Monday through Friday at 9:00 am Pacific and high noon on the east coast and it would actually be at 11:00 am in Cole’s time zone that’s right out there in the chillino area of the central time zone and uh we we cover six stories every day everything that you need to know in order to grow develop and pivot in the every changing cannabis industry so if you haven’t please check us out and uh thank you Cole for for having me today um I’m not here whoops I was muted that was my bad us fre my dude yo how’s it going bro how’s it going good I’m trying to I’m trying to trying to what’s up Jason I’m trying to how are you Michael good I’m trying to log on through my computer no problem no problem screen um I am just displaying right now on the screen for folks that are tuning in by the way Mike this is one this is a first this is like a historic uh Cole memo episode it’s one of the first we’ve done live so okay display you streaming on YouTube YouTube so I just uh I’m about to drop the link again on Instagram and everything else so that people can hop over but um yeah so there’s Jason’s website if people want to hop over they’re also on YouTube with you can see those links Here YouTube twitch Twitter X whoops Instagram Facebook link in all that stuff all the good stuff check them out um Mike I’ll have you introduce yourself when you’re ready I know you said you’re hopping over it’s okay I’m rolling up weeds so you know we’re we’re all good we’re about to get rolling anyways yeah I’m ready I’m just I forgot which email you sent it to that’s the problem I can’t pull it the invite up on my calendar oh no problem here let me uh think I got it oh you know what I know how to do it do text and really we can get going bro I can I can switch it over well I know Jason’s all rolled up Mike you all rolled up you’re gonna be rolling up like me yeah I’m gonna be rolling up like you I’m trying to I’m like juggling three different things at a time I just got back in the H SE honestly it’s almost good though to start with rolling up CU it’s like that ritual kind of like grounds you you know I don’t know for me like I just I also just got home and so yeah what were you about to say Jason I was gonna say if you get ready or if you stay ready you don’t got to get ready to get ready that’s right yes I could do too yeah hell yeah hell yeah well I feel like the timing is [ __ ] perfect on uh this this conversation you know there was just headlines in the news what was the headlines it was something about Camala and Trump uh I could I I could give you the headlines today the headlines today was that Trump comes out with an endorsement of amendment three in Florida and that kamla Harris and Tim Walls criticized Trump and his administration for being a flip-flopper on cannabis policy which I find extremely ironic yes extremely ironic yeah um Mike’s just joining back so we’re going to run it back just a second he he probably is also well aware the uh the headline but we’re displaying the headline right now um Harris campaign criticizes Trump for brazing flip-flops on marijuana so as you said um we covered both we covered both of those stories today on high at n news hell yeah I’ll throw the I’ll throw the link for today’s stream in um the show notes if people are watching this after the fact and want to check that out on high at n um because I know you’ve got different correspondents and stuff so different opinions and all that but um before we jump into that I wanted to just back up because Jason we had you introduce yourself and now that we got Mike here uh Mike I want to give you the space to introduce yourself it’s not your first time on the show but just in case people aren’t aware of who you are you know please introduce yourself and tell us uh where they can find you but also you know uh where you work online yeah and do you guys see me okay cool yeah look at that bro looking good Mike uh okay cool yeah so Mike Malcolm I am originally from Chicago but I’m out here in La now CMO of Crona I’m also an account exec at our drro JC red you can find me on all the internets at Mike G the God and uh I think that’s about it I got other titles I got other titles but I’ll leave it I’ll leave it at that right now grandic culture.com I wanted to.com for sure we try to we try to stay kind of like apolitical with Crona so but yes definitely rep the repping the brand always yeah yeah well good good that’s a good little disclaimer there you’re speaking on behalf of yourself not on behalf of your brand I just wanted to make sure to plug well I mean my my my partners think like me right but I also like to respect their uh opinion and give them opportunities to speak so always keep that in mind I think we talked about this a little bit before Cole I always like to even when I like post like my opinion pieces just yesterday I posted my top five burger joints in LA and I didn’t post it on the Crona uh on a uh uh wallpaper because I don’t want Kanan to be associated with my personal views on Burgers right people have strong feelings about their their preferred Burger spots in LA and I don’t want to start no mess I want people to know that it’s coming from my thoughts and not I’m not speaking on behalf of crer when I tell you the top five burger places in so yeah it’s kind of crazy how coincidentally you know Mike I know you from Illinois but you were you both are calling in from California today Jason are you also in La no I am in sunny sunny Orange County Orange County gotcha yes cool is that I don’t even know whereabouts that’s a that’s about that’s a little bit South yeah it’s just south it’s just south of Los Angeles County gotcha nice well it looks beautiful and I’m yes beautiful out beautiful out here cool well to get right back to it I brought uh both of you on because Jason you know literally your your uh your name here on Zoom says Jason Beck the highest Republican Mike we’ve both had conversations about uh uh Harris and Trump and their stances on cannabis and of course like I was leading with seems like better time than ever to discuss this with headlines like this from ABC News Harris campaign criticizes Trump for braz and flip-flops on marijuana before we get into this I just want to like say that it’s a like wherever you stand and whoever you’re voting for this fall I think it’s very interesting that both candidates are quote quote unquote trading belows on on marijuana now you know we I’m sure there that was a good say that was a good plan yeah good pun Cole yeah thank you but you know I think both of us may agree that depending on where we stand that we might think that somebody’s words are Hollow right so that’s kind of what I want to get into today you know I know that Jason you’re on the Trump side and Mike I know you’re on the Harris side so um that’s kind of what I wanted to get into today who who wants to lead with you know I don’t even really I I feel like like we’re talking about cannabis today I know that this can Branch out uh in many different ways obviously because I don’t know I don’t take any of you as single issue voters it’s not like you’re only voting for your candidate because of this single issue um but you know as much as we can if we can keep it focused on cannabis I think this could be a very vibrant conversation again I’m not setting walls I’m not saying we can’t step outside of it but you get what I’m saying I’m a say I’m a single issue voter but only that I hate Trump so the only issue I’m a single issue vter in that way I don’t understand how anybody can hate Trump so you want me to start C do you want me to just say my general Trump and then Jason you can respond if you want yeah most definitely absolutely yep okay so number one I think Trump is a racist all right I think that Trump is a con man I think Trump is a sexual predator so so those three things from the start are no goes in my opinion I can never support somebody who has not just been accused but found guilty of all three things all right and so there’s a lot of other there’s a lot of other things with that as well but I think those are the the that’s why I said the absolute no starter to me so am I a single issue voter I am not or I am only in the way that I’m against everything that he stands for and somebody that travels internationally a lot I know what that means and just how we’re looked at uh in the world and I know for a fact that we are not viewed we I’ve traveled a lot before Trump I’ve traveled during Trump and I’ve traveled since Trump and it’s never a good thing uh people never have good things to say about us and so that’s just that’s just me wrapped up in a nutshell real quick so it sounds to me Mike and correct me if I’m wrong it doesn’t sound like you’re necessarily a haris supporter you’re just more anti-trump I am a haris supporter for I am a haris supporter but I am more of a trump uh disliker than I am a Harris supporter Harris definitely has my support I want to see a black woman in office I think that she has better policies I think that I’m not a Democrat I think that any uh party has uh uh I want to say this I don’t think that any party I think that both parties are corrupt in their own ways I think that the Republicans have gone off the deep in though like they’ve turned the Trump their loyalty to Trump or their um their support of trump has turned into more of a cult then it is is L little to do with his policies at this point and I think is more emotional whereas uh people who have are well I’m not gonna say all people whereas I think Harris in general just has better policies I think the policies could be uh debated for sure um and I think that even for her I was telling people um before she even uh was the Democratic nominee I think that it actually wasn’t even fair to her in some way because she had such a short time to get all this together right and like I know a lot of people like oh well she doesn’t have anything on her website as far as policies but like two months ago she didn’t even know she was gonna be running for president right so I think that some of that has to be hashed out I think some of that she rightfully can be criticized maybe for not having all of her plans in place but I think whatever she puts in place is going to be better than waking up every morning to just seeing nonsense you know spread across our screens and I think nobody has divided this country more than Trump whether it was when he initially launched his campaign talking about Mexicans are rapist or when he was when Obama was running and he talked about his birth certificate or like I said I mean just his General approach to women in general with bragging about how it’s okay to sexually assault people like I think that’s beneath us as a country and I would just never want anybody like that to represent me or call that person my leader not including the fact also that he’s been bankrupt six times right like that was one of the great things that I one of Harris’s best quotes during her speech was just the simple fact when she said a lot of us don’t have the opportunity to fail forward you know the affirmative action of generational wealth you know however she put it I thought that was a great line because yeah most of us don’t have we were bankrupt six times um either of us on the on the on this podcast or on this on this uh Zoom right now none of us would be candidates for president and so I think that that’s a very uh yeah I think that’s just I think it’s BS and I think there’s a reason for that you know and that’s because it’s not it’s not about policies or even showing what you could do you know I’ve I’ve had job interviews I think where I was more critically judged than what Trump is right now just based off of my track record you know I think he has a terrible track record but I think people are willing to forgive that based off of you know it’s like this anti-establishment oh Stick it to the Man type of thing or but Trump is L like I wouldn’t vote for anybody just so that they could get away with doing illegal acts you know and that’s kind of how I look at the Trump support so I’m sorry I didn’t mean to go on a whole tangent but no worries no um so so you want me to go into to why I support Trump is that what I’m understanding correct Cole yeah if you don’t mind and you know really what I was uh you know one of the things I if you’d like to because that that would be yeah a direct response to Mike um and then yeah I’ll have uh you know kind of a cannabis guided question for you okay so uh the main reasons I really support president Trump is because me personally I have always wanted to see this country ran by someone with a business acument as opposed to a career-based politician uh Trump has been uh branding himself in in such a way that that he’s an incredible marketer I don’t think anybody can can can deny that and it amazes me how everybody previous to Trump ever running for president always wanted to be around him this guy um he was with Michael Jackson every day of his trial um I’ve seen him speak with uh with with Reverend Jesse Jackson I’ve seen Reverend Al Sharpton uh speak with him and all these different people commend him and give him D different accolades prior to him running for president but yet as soon as he runs for president then he then all of a sudden he’s a racist I don’t I don’t buy that type of a of argument or a talking point uh personally at all what what’s what whatsoever um as far as the the the the felony convictions I think the American people all know that that the whole thing was a total kangaroo setup uh from the beginning and and and for uh for especially for people in cannabis um it doesn’t make any sense to me to not vote someone because of a felony I mean I mean T Mo most people in the Cannabis world and and that were in the Cannabis world are felons and have been subject to adverse persecutor uh individuals throughout throughout the years and so um we we all know how how uh kangaroo courts can be run and how you’re basically guilty until proven innocent and not really given a free trial and that is basically the same thing that that Trump has received within all those uh convictions that that that that you referenced earlier Michael um in regards with with with Kam kamla Harris um one some of the main reasons I do not support kamla Harris is because first of all she’s not a real candidate she was never elected by the delegates to actually be a nominee she was installed and I don’t understand why more Democrats don’t have a problem when they claim that Trump is ruining democracy and all this and yet the whole Democratic party is ruining democracy because they’re not following the procedures of how to do how to do this they wanted Joe Biden to go up and have a debate with Trump and then did so terrible that they went and started to to uninstall him as the president I think that I think that’s crazy and I think the American public who all voted for Joe Biden to be their Democratic nominee the Democratic party in my opinion owes all of these people a big a big apology can I I want I don’t oh go go ahead sorry no no no please go ahead I was gonna ask CU like uh this point I’ve heard this one before and like it’s I think it’s like valid in some ways because I the the point of um the nominee but my point like replacing the nominee but my thing is like they’ve done this in the past right like with uh Bernie Sanders hold on they they they and no no not you know what and it is the exact same thing and you know who you know who this actually first happened you would know exactly the first what who the the Democrats did this to before Bernie Sanders they did it to Rob lovic who was the governor in Illinois this was the first time politically that that political stunt was done and executed and it happened with Rob Lich then they did it with the clintons did it with uh with Bernie Sanders and and everybody wanted wanted and all and all the Wikileaks emails that came out proved that the DNC and the clintons all campaigned and colluded to remove Bernie Sanders and not give him get give him the ability to be the nominee that what the people wanted and so the Democrats are a very corrupt party and organization in my mind I just can’t stand ST stand with that yeah I guess I guess my like point in bringing that up was like it seems like the idea of picking a nominee and and your point like the foundation you’re building your point on like it’s called the installation it’s called the installation saying it’s just like either party could do that so like my point is like is that really illegal or whatever you were saying like I don’t I like name a time that the Republicans have done that Cole I mean I guess my point is is that like what’s stopping them like I don’t think there’s a law stopping them that’s that’s really like my point you like you know what you know I’m not even trying to like make a big deal about this one I just honestly was curious about it I would say as far as like the whole delicate thing like when the majority of people that were supportive of the Democrats and Joe Biden were asking for Joe Biden to step down before the debate right the majority of people that wanted that were voting against Trump were voting against Trump because they were simply voting against Trump they did not want Joe Biden to run so I think when he had a terrible de debate and then he caught covid afterwards so they say right I think that was really his offramp so to speak of him being able to step out the way and just knowing how the rules and how the rules actually work because I did look it up how the rules work when it happened because yeah has happened in my lifetime as far as I know that the public vote vote voted for Biden to be the nominee but the way that the democratics rules work was that the delegates also vote right based off of the the the will of the voters now the one thing is that because Harris was part of that original ticket that’s why in their way it kind of makes sense that they were able to switch them out and that way and that’s why the money also went to her as well was because she was Al already part of that ticket so people voted for Biden but they weren’t Ving voting only for Biden they were voting for Biden Harris in the same way that they have Harris and Waltz and Trump Vans right now so as she’s part of that ticket she wasn’t the top of the ticket at the time but I think most people would agree I’m sure Jason you would agree that Biden maybe was not up to it at this point because of his age and his health or whatever so maybe he wasn’t the the best nominee so they swapped him out and they moved the second in line to the tip to the top of the line in the ticket to me I think that that was probably the smartest move and at least it was part of it’s part of their rules right because for sure if it was against the rules I’m sure by now the GOP would have filed all type of lawsuits like they threatened to do um already they all threatened that they were going to B these lawsuits and I think his name is Mike Johnson the head of the Congress uh he was saying that he was going to do this and he was going to do that um and they haven’t done it because they didn’t break any rules um one last thing I will say about Trump being a racist um is that when I say Trump is a racist I’m not just saying that I think Trump is a racist as Michael Malcolm saying that Trump is a racist I’m saying Trump is a racist because the Nixon Administration called Trump and his father racist when they found him guilty of racially discriminating and against their and their housing back in in New York in the 70s and I’m saying Trump is a racist because when he put his uh when he put the ad out against the Central Park 5 you know the black man that will falsely accused of rape he went above and beyond and called for the death penalty and even after they were exonerated by DNA he never apologized he never showed any type of remorse right uh and again I could go on every everything else but it’s not like oh I think he’s a racist the Nixon Department called it racism and he was found guilty of that right so again you could say oh well it’s a kangaroo court was the Nixon uh Administration was that a kangaroo court in the 70s or is it 50 years later in 2024 when he was found guilty again of breaking the law is that now the the kangaroo court you see what I’m saying like the ball keeps getting moved about what’s what is and it’s not all it a lot of it is my personal opinion but some of these things have been proven in the court of law Jason I don’t know if you’re moving spots right now or you uh migrating my friend yeah you know what my my internet keeps on uh breaking up right here so I’m moving to to to to a new part so I I apologize give me a second I’m sorry I missed I missed everything that you said because it was just I’ll give you a chance so you can respond go ahead because I was I want to respond exactly to what he said you know I think yeah a lot of people are saying I’ve heard that response as well like oh well um whoever was around Trump and I’m sure Jason knows this as well like being out here in LA and and Southern California just like New York it’s a lot of mingling right take pictures with a lot of people who you may not agree with on politically but taking pictures with somebody and wanting that person to represent you on an international stage I think is two different things yeah did you get all rolled up bro right here I haven’t even I want to I want to be I want to be nice and sharp for you because I know you have some pointed questions Cole yeah and we haven’t even gotten into it yet I’m glad though that we’re like starting off this way because it’s like it gives a little more insight into like C you know again it’s like hard to have this conversation separate from this because the reason I started by saying that like you know uh and you had a good response to the single subject voter but the reason I responded to that is because I know that like you can’t have this conversation and it only be about cannabis right you know no 100% so yeah the Cannabis thing that’s the thing that I actually resent that people think because I work in the Cannabis industry because I I love the plant so much that that somehow is going to make me a single issue voter I’m not I I honestly I was smoking weed when it was illegal as [ __ ] bro yeah I was walking around with pxs a long time ago again being I’m not GNA let the government tell me like that’s not what I’m voed on no I feel you and it’s part that’s part of the problem you know like weed stands I could give a [ __ ] yeah honestly like that is better to me I actually we we could definitely get into this too Jason can can you hear us now yes okay two things I just want yes yes yes yes yes I got you address two things that you said said number one about the racism thing I was saying that I’m not just saying this it’s definitely my opinion that Trump is a racist but the Nixon Department found Trump and his father guilty of racial discriminations way back in the 70s so he has a long track record of his racism it’s not just me the Nixon Department which I don’t think anybody would say uh was woke the Nixon Department the opposite of woke but they found him and his uh father guilty um and he and they and they played out to it too of racial discrimination way back in the 70s so it has a long trck record of that and then again as far as the business Acumen right his business Acumen he’s bankrupt six times personal and that doesn’t even account for all his failed businesses everything from the Trump state to the Trump water to the Trump airline to the Trump all his bankrupt his bankrupt casinos his bankrupt you wouldn’t vote for anybody else that had not only been bankrupt personally that time but had bankrupt so many businesses that many times but but but but but but to that but you vote vote regularly for career politicians who have absolutely zero business Acumen and just flee the American people all the time uh with their with their Insider stock deals and whatnot and are creating such high rapid inflation rates throughout the country that that I mean the American economy was booming under Trump everybody was getting money even the even the brokest people I know had had had money during the Trump’s presidency and now everybody is hurting from rich people to poor people the most and and it’s it’s not right it’s not right that that is happening well I would agree that people money was flowing easier but that’s also the reason why people are hurting so much right now no that’s not that’s ridic free money all that free money that was injected into the system like I think would you would agree that most of the policies that are set when presidents are in place a lot of those policies and the effects of those policies are in the rear right like they don’t sign a bill and then everything goes into action the second that they sign the bill and then you automatically see the what happens because of that right I I I I sometimes you do it depends on the policy sometimes you do sometimes they don’t and at the same time sometimes they also have delayed start dates as to when those policies actually go into effect and so I’m going to say that it’s going to vary with a lot of things because a lot of his economic policies got implemented immediately and there was immediate relief from so I I’m not yeah I’m not I I understand where you get there and and and yes that that that does happen but that’s it’s not with every policy immediate relief like PPP right PPP at the time was great for people because people were able to have a little money in their pocket but what also happened with PPP was that there was a lot of extra money around and it’s just a simple so you’re you’re criticizing you’re criticizing relief to the American people when the when when the basically the World closed down to making sure that people had had had food and could put uh put put bread on the table for their families I’m criticizing it yeah I’m criticizing it yeah and I benefited from it too right I mean I’ve been at the time I was a realtor and it was the first time in our nation’s history that Realtors were able to foul unemployment when they didn’t close a deal that never happened before I benefited from that I was grateful for that but that was extra money injected into the system and that extra money is what causes inflation because when there’s a whole lot of money out here in the system the value of money decreases it’s just a basic economics I think I I I think you can go into into into a a lot of of that is is is is all really happen way more under the Biden Administration in in my opinion not to mention you have us given uh 40 billion here 80 billion there to Ukraine to fight this proxy war that and the fact that Trump got us into no new Wars then you had the Biden and and and the Biden Administration with the craziest exit out of Afghanistan on top of us getting us in to a proxy war with the Ukraine and Russia and also with Israel and Palestine right now yeah but that so with the with that exit from Afghanistan that was a something that Trump put in place there was no there was no War there was no new war started under Trump yeah but that doesn’t Trump trump Trump trump world leaders respected us now they just trample on us now they just trample all over us that’s that that’s the reality but let’s let’s let let’s bring this back let’s bring this back into a little bit of cannabis policy um because the the one of the main reasons is is is why I’m also not in favor of KLA Harris as as being our President is because um I I’ve I’ve worked alongside her and she has prosecuted more people for cannabis while she was the district attorney in San Francisco while she was the Attorney General in California and this this hypocrisy that she is portraying that she is some friend to cannabis and whatnot and wants to get this job done is just totally ridiculous she is a career-based politician she has been arresting people for weed for a very very very long time and I have witnessed it firsthand well for one she didn’t arrest anybody for weed because she wasn’t a police officer right she’s a she was a DA she prosecuted him she sure as hell prosecuted him sure as hell prosecuted and that’s basically who puts you that’s really who puts you in jail yeah cops will arrest you but if you’re not prosecuted you’re out within 72 hours yeah that’s was literally her job right least detain yeah but she was sounds like she was doing her job right if if if that if if you’re if you’re gonna call that call that doing her job with a lot of unjust unjust arrest uh when we had a very vibrant medical program going on and people were still getting arrested that were that were that were card holders and things like that for this then then then you know I can’t argue with you I mean I’m just saying the law law is the law right law is the law okay law law is the law and I’m not gonna F that’s a that’s a funny one well I’m not gonna fault her for someone who is a prosecutor for doing their job right and I think there like my my my uncle I got a lot I have two uncles in my in my family that were police officers right and so they I didn’t necessarily agree with all of the things that they stood for right as being police officers but I respected their their the fact that they were they took some uh pride and trying to make Society a more just Place upholding the laws even if I didn’t necessarily agree with everything and again being like I said before not a single issue voter I don’t I don’t necessarily agree with the fact that people were locked up obviously for cannabis and things like that no matter what the amounts were what they were me whe they were medical card holders or they were just trapping and sending shipments of of boxes all over the country all over the world like I don’t think any one person is better than another but at the same time I think about what happens in our communities right whenever there’s a black unarmed armed black man or woman killed right the first thing that we talk about is how we need more representation in law enforcement we need more black people in law enforcement we need more women in law enforcement so now that we have a black woman in law enforcement that did her job according to you did her job right remember she was twice elected da in San Francisco she was twice elected AG do do do you know do you know how she got her political start I know about Willie Brown and all that stuff like that but being twice elected so anybody think you think that’s that’s a good role model for women that she dated a politician that’s not that’s not it was not dating it was not dating bro it was not dating Notting yeah you like I was in San Francisco at the time I was in San Francisco at the time I lived there okay I’m very very aware of the political landscape of what was going on what capacity had did you I just to kind of get it on her cannabis policy sorry to cut you off mic but like what Capac you cuz I remember you telling me on the podcast and I’ll link that in the show notes as well uh Jason our episode together you said that some I can’t remember because I smoke a lot and do a lot of these episodes but you said uh that you worked and you actually mentioned it earlier you said you worked with uh Harris in the past can you talk about that uh so that we can kind of talk about the yeah the Cannabis history and such with her yes so I I I was on her medical cannabis task force when she was a district attorney in San Francisco what when was this again uh you’re going to have to you’re going to have to Google 96 though the medical program yes yes it was way yeah it was in it was in the 2000s okay cool gotcha so that’s sweet anyways though so I was on her medical cannabis task force and she was not a big friend to medical cannabis or to the medical cannabis community at at at all there were still people that was getting prosecuted even when we would tell them that uh that that these people are with us these people are part of the medical side their suppliers XYZ whatever like it was it was still going going on Sharon woo was the head of her of of the uh of the narcotics uh Prosecuting narcotics attorney and uh and and and Russ gaoi was was was served right under as basically like Chief of Staff lead prosecutor um over o o over the City and County of San Francisco at that time and they had all originally came from Alam County from Oakland Oakland’s county um uh prior prior to them her being elected as the district attorney of San Francisco and so I’ve witnessed I’ve witnessed this fake agenda and the fact that she even has the nerve to say that she listened to Tupac while she was in college like those timelines just don’t even add up and it’s just she’s just so you know I mean she listen to Tupac I’m I didn’t say she didn’t listen to Tupac I’m saying that that that t when she says that she listened in her College days to Tupac smoking weed that’s not real you got look at that timeline bro she was Tupac didn’t even come out then I don’t know when she was in college but exactly exactly Tupac had two had two different I mean was she listened to Brenda had a baby Tac or was she listen to West Coast Tupac like Tupac you have to you have to you have to look at you have to look you have to look at the original show that she did she she’s she’s she says uh I believe the song that she was listening to um if if if if I’m correct but to me either way it doesn’t matter either way is the timelines don’t match up but what I was kind of asking about you know was kind of like recap in the timeline of uh you were talking about how people were upset with her back in the day about what she was doing with cannabis I wanted because I want to what I’m kind of want to do is start with Harris’s record on cannabis and we’re gonna talk about that she’s the career based politician she she she will prosecute for cannabis and this whole schedule three thing that the Democrat are trying to push is just going to get more people locked up in jail because schedule three drugs you have to have a prescription for first of all second of all it cannot be sold okay in a dispensary it can only be sold through a pharmacy how many social Equity applicants are going to be able to go through a DEA process and obtain a pharmacy license all right sold at all right now yeah you skipped ahead though I was I was trying to ask you like again I want to get to that and I’m glad you brought up scheduling but I was trying to ask like were people like I’m just throwing out some names like Dennis Peron I’m thinking of like Californians were like man this Harris attorney she’s just like was she that well known like is I’m again I’m trying to establish I don’t I don’t understand what you mean by that I’m a little confused by the question I’m sorry I’m I’m trying to establish like her record you said that she’s got this history right so I’m and you said you had worked with her in the past so I’m trying to establish like I’m I’m kind of giving you the space right now to like to uh say like you know like where she started bad because everybody talks about that so I’m trying to get she she she started off bad from the from from the beginning okay from from from the beginning and and and and and you know what and I and I still believe to this day that uh it’s very possible that kamla heris has a uh vindictive feeling towards the medical cannabis community and and just and and and it it’s very possible because Terrence was our guy he was our guy in the da he was he was the most Progressive da um uh that we had and and and uh he he was the sole reason that that medical cannabis really was able to to to live and and grow into what it is today when it was such at a at an infancy State um because San Francisco is its own City and County so when when KLA Harris came in there was a whole bunch more prosecutions going on because before Terrence would have just sto that dead in the water those would have never even happened because we had an out of control narcotics Department with Marty howan and uh and uh I forget the last guy’s other guy’s name I believe was was higs if I remember correctly um and there was a there was a lot of people that were getting killed like there there was a lot of bad things that were happening in San Francisco at that time I couldn’t tell you how many moms I’ve had come up to me uh telling me how their their their their Childs were were killed by the San Francisco police department and and we’re not just talking about just like one shot we’re talking like 25 shots all right no reason that before they was happened way before Harris that’s why the Black Panthers were founded in San Francisco and in the Bay Area because I’m just speaking I’m speaking to my my personal experience speaking of my personal experience okay all of these things happen millions of times I mean you know what I mean like people have been walking forever so you know what I mean like okay I just I’ll say this about just about just some of her background because I don’t know I admit you know obviously I’m from Chicago so I don’t know all of Harris’s background I wasn’t out here back then right but I would say just uh you know if I’m thinking logically here right that if you’re a if you are a prosecutor a federal prosecutor in an elected position you can’t go on uh I’m sure in the early 90s there she was never she was she was never a federal prosecutor she was a district attorney she was a district attorney for the City and County of San Francisco and she was the California State Attorney General right and when she was the AG I’m sorry when she was the da of San Francisco I’m sure that in the in the early 90s or I’m sorry late 90s it was she it was not the same type of cannabis didn’t have the same type of support as it does now so you can’t it did no it did Francisco I’ll let you Jason I’ll let you I’ll let you finish Jason you can you can resp when I when I get done I just want to make for is that you can’t go against you can’t be a prosecutor and then uh be outwardly Pro something that is federally illegal right that is not a smart way and one of the things that I have heard Hara say multiple times is that she wanted to change a lot of the way the laws work from within the system right and so what that means is some is sometimes you may want to call it politics but it’s literally what it is when you have to you’re running for an office that is an elected position that you have to play some politics right and so you can’t you can work to work from inside the first thing you have to do is get elected you have to be inside so again I’m not trying to excuse all of the people that were all the the arrests that were made or anything like that but it does make sense to me that maybe she wouldn’t be as Pro cannabis in early in her career as she would be now that the public opinion has changed Nation Nationwide right like we’re in a very different climate today than we were in the late 90s when it comes to the plant so it doesn’t surprise me now that her views would change as most people’s views have changed on different things things right nobody a lot of people don’t feel the same way they do about certain issues that they felt 20 years ago or even at the beginning of their career case in point right is federal legalization right I’m not necessarily for federal legalization because I think once Federal legalization happens all the big boys that can’t touch cannabis right now will be able to touch cannabis which will completely squash everybody all the social Equity people all the people working to get in right now once Monsanto and bear Industries and Dole and all these other people can start coming in FedEx and UPS and Amazon I don’t think it’s going to be as good as people think it is so but if you had asked me six years ago what do I think about Federal legalization I’m like man it needs to be legalized it needs to be completely legalized now that I’m in it I don’t necessarily think that same way I think a little bit differently so I would give them the same type of Grace like your opinions might be able to to change but that’s not the same as being a complete liar like Trump is Right Trump is a complete liar he’s a complete con man I believe what like somebody that ran on building the wall and me making Mexico pay for it and all this stuff and hasn’t done any of that stuff right he’s a he’s a complete he’s a con artist right so it’s like how would you it’s one thing to have an evolving opinion when you see public opinion and maybe you able to gain and learn from people that are your con constituents is completely different from going whatever the wind blows and doing whatever you can do to um to just say what whoever’s yelling in front of you the people want to hear you know and that’s why I said I think that it’s it might not be the best for you know again it’s somebody that is in the in the industry it’s hard to look at a prosecutor and say oh that’s a good person and I want person to represent me I too have a lot of friends that and family members that have been locked up for cannabis I’m a social Equity applicant I got a record right I’ve been locked up for weed before and so it’s not like I’m like oh well she’s a prosecutor so forget all of that I mean you know I’m just for completely ignoring the fact that she was a prosecutor but I do think that there’s a role to play and for me I would rather have a prosecutor who has worked for the people their whole life versus somebody that only looks out for them s well so let me go back to the first thing that that I was going to going to address you were talking about the the Public Public sentiment in the city and county of San Francisco at the time well um that that is just totally totally totally ridiculous because in 1996 which was way before uh kamla Harris’s uh uh uh um run or uh you know uh time at district attorney uh 1996 medical cannabis passed by 78% of the voting population in San Francisco then we had another follow-up measure of called measure s which uh which was should the City and County of San Francisco explore cultivating cannabis on city property and this was just a measure to measure public opinion in regards with this and this passed if if my memory uh serves me correctly by over 56% now and that was a very big gauge to see how far the city and county could actually push medical cannabis to push it to a na to a national level because bringing a bringing in the city um with that and and cultivating on city land was going to be a big big deal um in regards with the push for uh for destigmatizing around the plant and so I I have to totally push back on the fact that uh that that any of that makes sense as far as a change in public opinion in regards with cannabis in San Francisco that’s totally ridiculous so you think that there’s been no change since the 90s in the in the public sentiment on on cannabis not in San Francisco no okay well and again even if that be the case that doesn’t mean that she had to mentally be there at the time when she was running for office or had her job right maybe she evolved with I just I just hear I just hear excuses for for for for this bad behavior that’s all that I would rather I would rather excuse that than a rapist you know what I’m saying it’s like there’s no there’s no rap there’s no there’s no rape conviction bro that’s just that’s F was no there’s not and then he and then millions of dollars for lying about it it’s just not it’s not the there’s no rape well he bragged about ridiculous that’s ridiculous rabing to me if you rope a woman without uh her consent you’re a rapist right like you youan I mean there call sexual assaulter but there’s a definition for rape and there’s a definition for sexual assault and I’m gonna stick to those those definitions because because the two are not the same and both are both are not not respectable in in those words in in those ways so I totally agree with you on on that part but I’m I’m this that’s I’m not trying to I give I give Trump if you can’t tell I give him no passes right it’s all good all good he he doesn’t get the he doesn’t get to because he doesn’t do that for people right again when he’s want to talk about Mexicans he says they’re rapist and they he was not talking about all Mexicans that’s just that’s ridiculous bro that’s he’s not talking about all Mexicans he’s talking about the coyotes and things like that that are human trafficking these people across our border every day that’s what he’s talking about he’s not talking about every single Mexican person no that he knows that there’s a major that’s going on African countries are [ __ ] hoes right I’m just talking I’m talking about him speak generalities very he makes very gen General wide statements that’s why I call him a rapist right because when it comes when he’s trying to make a he’s not parsing his words he’s not worried about how it sounds right if you like Trump let’s talk like Trump this I’m GNA talk about him just like he talks in generalities about everybody else right bro is a rapist he’s a racist and he’s a con man now you could try to be like oh well this and what he meant was that and you know like I don’t do that with him bro I boom rapist so that’s ridiculous that’s ridiculous that’s TDS right well we can just to keep it on cannabis and I want to switch gears unless there’s more space to add because again I was trying to give I wanted to start off with Harris I want to just plug this article that I found for people that are tuning in now or after the fact it’s by USA Today uh the headline is uh kamla Harris uh stance on marijuana has certainly evolved here’s what to know and just at a glance it looks like it starts with the federal thing uh with rescheduling um but it talks about in 2009 apparently she introduced legislation to decriminalize uh marijuana I think that was when she was maybe a senator and then here’s a part about the convictions in California um and then this is I believe Cole to you’re saying this I don’t know if it’s in this but I also read again have not done all of my research on this but I did read that she had less convictions than her uh the people that were in her position before no that’s totally that’s manufactured information I don’t know on that but here’s some numbers it says when Harris was San Francisco da she supported the legal use of medical marijuana is that true but opposed a 2010 measure to legalize pot in California according to the Los Angeles Times so yep yep that’s true during during her tenure she oversaw the conviction of more than 1900 people for weed violations the Mercury News reported um prose uters on her staff convicted people on these charges at a a rate higher than under her predecessor okay however most of the defendants were not incarcerated for low-level pot possession according to the outlet more than 2,000 people were incarcerated California state prisons for marijuana and hashish related offenses while Harris was the state’s attorney general so um yeah um interesting mhm interesting stuff so anyways um anything else on you know did we want to talk rescheduling before we switch to kind of uh Trump on cannabis because he’s made statements Onis over the years but now he just made a recent one so again in the spirit of what we did with uh Harris we could do the same thing with Trump but I a better he has a bigger legislative record of accomplishments when it comes to cannabis as well we’ll talk about that but I want to give uh space anything else on Harris do you want to talk rescheduling real quick or is that kind of yeah we can go into resch let’s go into rescheduling okay anything on rescheduling so rescheduling is going to be a failed policy if implemented thank God they decided to have a hearing and stall this thing out maybe possibly they realize what a train record is actually going to be um schedule three drugs can only be administered by a pharmacist it would basically uh make it as well so that every single product on every single shelf throughout the entire country would be deemed elist product because it would bring in the FDA and the FDA is a would be a brand new organization coming government agency to come in in and regulating on cannabis and the FDA regulates everything by the molecule uh there’s already there the FDA already has drug preclusion on MAR on THC for uh for Marinol as well as CBD for epids um and they regulate everything by the compound so therefore any product that has CBD or THC in would be regulated by them at that point in time not to mention you also have the food drug and cosmetics act and every single product on a dispensary shelf in the entire country is uh would either be considered a food drug or cosmetic and so that brings a whole host of other different types of uh of labeling uh things and whatnot and there’s zero cannabis companies that are really going to have the money to push you know what I’m saying more than five SKS through a 15-year FDA study to to to to make those products actually viable there’s not a way that they can uh that they can uh uh be able to sell sell flour under under a schedule three uh type type of type of marketplace because they deal with strictly single compounds and there’s a big problem with that and all these people that want to hope around and wish around that they’re going to try to come to some fix once they do it you guys are living in a fantasy world that’s not how government works uh yeah I mean what I would say uh uh two things one Cole if you’re doing any research in the background right now can you look up one thing just about that last point we were talking about Harris’s record I am curious to see uh I did see that it it said that she prosecuted people at a higher rate does that mean though that more people were arrested for cannabis related crimes during her rate because that’s what I believe that I saw not necessarily about a conviction rate um totally different things um really quick just to your point since it’s I got it pulled up um I think it did follow up with saying that however most of the defendants were not incarcerated for low level pop possession is that what you were talking about or well no uh kind oh that’s not what he’s saying what what he’s asking Cole what what he’s asking Cole is if he’s saying that Terrence henan had more arrests uh for cannabis than than than what kamla had as specific to cannabis under under his tenor which I’m not I’m I’m not I’m not not buying and and if those if those if if those were arrests that would be an interesting thing because you would need to cross reference it with the amount of convictions because as you already stated before in your in your in your comma argument is that cops are the ones that arrest people and and as we both agreed that the uh that the district attorneys are the ones that prosecute them so we would need to cross reference those two facts to get that actual real number I believe that was a lpp uh article that was reading because they had done some uh research on those only thing I’ll say about the rescheduling though is what I said before which is that people need to be very careful about what they ask for and I know it’s very easy to say well if this happens like if they go to schedule three then this going to happen but we already see carve outs with cannabis being schedule one right now so the truth is I’m not too sure what there’s no carve out with schedule one there is no there’s not dispensaries operate right now no no no they’re not there’s carve out that’s not how that works Federal no no no no right I understand what you’re saying Jason but what I’m saying is that dispensaries are operating all over the country right now with cannabis still being schedule one so again agre agreed but that’s because there’s there there’s a protocol in place that stops the DEA which was the only enforcement agency that has governance over schedule one drugs what was the protocol yeah what was the pr that that that that’s the roarer far Amendment Congress roer congressman roer is is right inside actually working on his book right now um and and we we and and so that that that that is the federal Appropriations bill that prohibits the doj and DEA from extrapolating federal funds to go after State licensed cannabis businesses medical license right uh yes but but what you have to understand is that Appropriations bills have to be written so broadly that they literally cannot expense any money so when you uh when you get caught with a bag of of of flow in a plastic bag it is automatically presumed by law enforcement that that is purchased within state so therefore they can’t expense any funds to investigate if if something is medical or or or adult use so therefore so that that that’s just that that’s how it works that’s how it works so so as it’s written it actually does cover adult use as well which is why you still haven’t seen braids um in in in regards since since those bills I was trying to make make a silly Co memo joke Jason it went right over your head yeah it’s it’s not it’s but the co memo is just is just a memo it’s a directive it does nothing it doesn’t have any teeth everyone in the Cannabis industry Praises it like it’s like it’s God’s gift to to cannabis but all it is some idiot show after it yeah I think I think my my point is mainly that when to talk about being it rescheduled to schedule three we don’t know what that finally would look like because yeah we do yeah we do it’s very clear you look you look at all the FDA on how they how they govern everything that’s not that’s not how it works unless they have something in place prior to that that’s how it’s going to work it’s how the FDA governs that’s just plain and simple it can very easily be changed and rules can be changed the rescheduling that’s I’m not I’m not saying that it will and or that it would be in that’s not that’s not reality they they they’d have that already prepared already to to already in drafts and that that is not even a reality what do you think about the idea that when rescheduling comes out that uh attorney G Garland finally issues his new coal memo like he he promised all those years ago alongside rescheduling because to your point Jason to your point called the Garland memo though yeah you’re right you’re right it would [ __ ] my whole name up but uh to your point though your your very valid point uh dispensaries would still be operating outside of that framework of rescheduling so there there I think the Garland memo like you say would come alongside rescheduling do you think that like that is probably because then there’d be like a bifurcated approach no and and even if it’s a memo it means absolutely nothing there’s no legal legal bound there’s no punishment it’s just like hey guys um make sure make sure you make a full and complete stop at the stop sign and how many people do What’s called the California stop all the time it’s that yeah exactly so there there’s not going to be any limit to any type of enforcement schedule three is just drug war 2.0 all over again I think that completely nonsense only for the simple fact that the amount of these M of lobbyists that these multi-billion doll companies already have there’s no way that once if if that they reschedule then then the government is going to start raiding dispensaries all over the country like it’s just no no I didn’t I didn’t say the government was going to be raing dispensaries the enforcement’s going to come in in in mailers from the FDA uh telling people that they’re out of compliance and if not they’re going to get sued to death by the FDA and they’re going to get uh death death just think about that’s just what happen that’s how Works think about the administration that would do something like that right because again cannabis now is seen positive by the majority of the country right so bro it doesn’t matter what it is I’m just telling you how how the words are written but that how the words are written is how how how it’s going to end up happening and play out get Rewritten all the time that’s the whole point no they don’t that’s not how it really works no they don’t no they don’t laws do change but things don’t get Rewritten all the time it’s not versus way right they take that was the Supreme Court decision that’s different right that your boy put in place you know what I’m saying and my point is only that things can change all the time right I me in the same way they can change it for take it off schedule one and and change to schedule three again there’s no you you think that whatever you think has happen with schedule three it’s not like on uh taking it off the Des scheduling completely it’s it’s better if it stayed on the dedu list the only benefit the Cannabis industry gets for moving it to schedule three is the removal of 280e and that’s not even 100% certain but everybody that talks every that that would be that would be great but the reality of it is is is that that’s not a fair trade off for what what what will ultimately happen under a schedule three workout you’re worried about pharmacies and I’m worried about Amazon you know you just worried about it’s just a different player who’s going to come in and swap up all the licenses and crush the little guys I’m I’m not I’m not in I’m not into giving big farma cannabis that goes against everything that this movement was all about in the first place that’s a core fundamental i i i that then that’s fine and that’s then that’s what it is but but but but but but to give it to Big Pharma after after cannabis has been helping people so many people get off of big Pharma for the poison that they’ve done and you want to give it to Big Pharma that just sounds totally ridiculous to me like I said I don’t see any I see very little upside in either one uh the 280e thing is interesting to me but again like you just said I would have to see there’s no guarantee on there no guarantee on that I would need to see the final verbiage on that but at the same time if you just say that you there’s no guarantee then there’s noton no guar that they’re gonna start sending letters from the FDA the dispensaries and so that will happen that will happen immediately bro how can you say one is a guarantee but the other one isn’t what’s that how can you say one is a guarantee because there because they would have already been working on framework to create that rule structure program or some type of an exemption or whatnot they would have already had that framed out and be able to answer these questions these people have absolutely zero plan when it comes to that it’s just like kamla’s website with her policies totally blank yeah I don’t think that’s necessarily the case just for the simple fact that I think both sides are probably trying to figure out how to do it but again there’s lobbyists in place on both sides to just fighting against these things so there’s the these multi do uh these multi-state operators have these publicly traded billion dollar companies are spending a crazy amount of money to make sure that their Empires don’t crumble so I found that very hard to believe that all of a sudden on either side is these cannabis companies don’t have enough money to prop up their businesses if their life’s depended on it there’s the the the and the reality of it is the nail polish is far industry is far of politically astute than the Cannabis industry and the amount of lobbying dollars that go into it every year so you can’t you can’t say that well I’m just saying in a way I can’t say that one thing is gonna happen you can’t say that another thing is gonna happen because the truth is we don’t know I can I can’t say that you can assume yeah I mean that that was kind of interesting it’d be interesting to see those lobbying dollars uh you know what I mean like you were talking about Jason um cuz like you know I think from like Mike’s standpoint like when you watch like these hearings like a lot of times you’ll see somebody like Charlie baell in the background or you know one of their lobbyists and um you know so to Mike’s point they’re definitely in Washington doing this um and like like he said I’ll agree I’ll agree with the first part that they’re definitely in Washington okay there you go yes they haven’t accomplished anything they SP a lot of money to influence I mean I’ve been I I I’ve been there I I’ve been a registered lobbyist for cannabis so so I I totally I I to get it like I know exactly who’s there and I know exactly what’s going on and I know how effective everything is working out and so another Point that’s why you see every single state is turning green right now right Kentucky just closed St state state ballot issues are not the same thing as as as as lobbying for policy in Washington DC those are those are apples and oranges but but that comes from public sentiment across the country which we uh which we do see public sentiment numbers are up on both sides on Democratic side and Republican sides as well asend that’s why it’s not going anywhere I never said it was going anywhere so um I mean just to wrap up rescheduling I was just trying to say like I tend to like Think Like Mike Mike was just saying that it would be hard to believe that there just all these dispensaries would shut down with as much money and flex willpower they have like Jason do you think I’m being too optimistic like again when I put out that like uh uh prediction that will have rescheduling and then again some sort of like follow here’s here here’s the re here’s here’s how rescheduling will all will will really play out okay wi without a doubt no matter um so let’s just assume there’s it can go one or two ways it can get it can get uh installed after the hearing after December 2nd or it can it can it can it can not be installed at all so that obviously if it’s not installed at all it stays the same the status quo is what we have today uh if if it does go into in into to that still nothing will change because immediately there’ll be a whole number of lawsuits that are filed in regards with the whole procedural process with how this whole thing was done it goes against all of the uh all of the uh actual processes in place as far as what a DEA does to uh be able to to to go through these types of processes um it it doesn’t pass its fiveo uh uh mustard test because you can’t make uh cannabis a single compound you can make single compound single compounds but you can’t make cannabis as a whole a single compound because it’s it’s it’s it’s a whole bunch of compounds that create that so this it’s this is this whole thing is totally flawed it’s going to get caught up in a whole bunch of lawsuits and nothing’s going to change for years on end until we end up having a Court decision in that and so total three schedule three is a total total wash yeah I would need to see the final language before I make any educated decision uh comment um well so okay we I want start to close out but I we gave a lot of space on Harris’s record I want to talk about Trump’s record for a moment because like you know it he has made statements over the years uh I actually just watched one the other day where I think it was in the 2016 election before the 2016 election he said he supports he said he supported the uh because he was in Colorado at the time the use of medical cannabis but he had to like think about adult use cannabis or something to that effect I can try well we actually we actually worked with him on on that messaging and and and getting get getting to that point uh back then and and you are correct well um he did come out uh prior to his uh election as as in his first term uh in favor of medical cannabist uh didn’t know where he was was on the adult use but but did uh was for the medical use of it what was he like before then like did he because I know in the past he had even am I wrong that he had voiced like support for legalization drugs at a certain point or something like that he had yeah he has stated he has stated that that the drug war is is is really just a war on on the American people is is it’s destroys families um which is one another one said that drug dealers need to get the death penalty he’s talking about F he’s talking about he’s talking about fentanyl Smugglers that are coming across our border bro that’s what he’s referencing okay he’s not talking about your low-level uh Criminal on the street or whatnot he’s talking about people that are smuggling the fentanyl in coming from China to Mexico to to here in the US that’s what talk about I noticed that Trump supported Trump will say something very Broad and general that’s why I like to speak in very Broad and general terms when I talk about him and then he lets the Trump supporters clean up his messes I don’t need to clean up boy for him like why are you caring Stop’s a grown man let him make his points you like oh well this is what he meant he said well he he didn’t meant death penalty to all drug deal bro he said drug dealers he didn’t say Fen andol dealers you’re taking his words way out of context bro that’s just totally ridiculous and doesn’t even worth the time even debating because it’s total total just Ridiculousness I’m just saying his words I I can’t find the clip on his medical marijuana thing but I remember it it was he he did he he did he did he he did come out uh come out back then but again before that hold on hold on let me let me hold on let me go into what what what uh uh some of these accomplishments uh in regards with under under his under his tendency so first of all you have the first step act which is a Criminal Justice Reform Bill which is a big thing that a lot of us were pushing for so I know somebody that worked on that I know that was I give him credit for that a lot of people a lot of people do not like me to give him credit for that but I actually know people that work directly with him on that I know that was a real thing I know people that came home for that yep exactly so First Step at being number one number number two we also have uh he also called for a bill to get to his desk while he was President he stood outside he said get a bill to my desk regarding the Cannabis issue and and I will sign it and that was in he was he was signaling to Safe banking at the time it had just passed the Senate recently and and the house and Paul Ryan blocked it and then again two years later Nancy Pelosi blocked it from going to to a floor vote and being able to to to be passed during the time under Trump’s tener because they didn’t want to allow him to have a victory wait wait so just to be clear Paul Ryan a republican blocked Rhino he a rhino Republican over his own party correct I don’t understand why you would use the word control like that that just doesn’t no I’m just mean he he was the leader of his party he he was hey just just because you have different factions that are doing different things bro this just you know what I mean it’s a big it’s a big ship it’s a big ship all right but so I like how you want to poke at that and and and I criticize Paul Ryan hold on let me I I I did because I’m I’m I’m speaking the truth of what what was real in history and so like like and I gave I told Paul Ryan because Paul Ryan is a hypocrite because he he prior to that he had came in in favor of cannabis prior to that and so so he he he’s a big a big you know in the same boat as far as I concerned as Nancy Pelosi who also killed it but is yet is from San Francisco the birthplace of medical cannabis and is yet going against her constituency for political reasons and that’s why we don’t have safe banking in place right now is because of that because Trump would have signed it then you also have the the 2018 farm bill which actually really legalized cannabis all the way even though you everybody wants to play by this uh .3 uh uh uh THC percentage because in the Controlled Substances Act for the definition of hemp it is Cannabis sativa L which is the same definition for can for marijuana and the exact same thing and Jason you being in the Cannabis industry do you think that has been good for our industry I think yes why why isn’t it more people are getting access and whatnot now are there a lot of bad things that are happening uh and that I don’t agree with yes 100% but anything that brings more people access I I I’m with I’m with that do you think the price has G up or going down are businesses thriving because of that that H bill you think uh hemp industry is doing just fine hemp industry is doing just fine cannabis no because there too much local control government regulation and hampered down by all of these markets way way too much government uh Taxation and whatnot like I could go on for days and days on this and you you know about it you’re an operator you know exactly what I’m talking about I do know what she’s talking that’s why I exactly so so I I I I agree with you on that but that’s that that’s a that’s that that’s a state thing that’s not a federal government thing well you just said that he he put that in in law he passed he did he did he did and do you know how many how many cannabis hold on do you know how many actual cannabis companies are benefiting because they have the hemp side to operate their brand with right now that are actually able to pay their bills because of that so that’s why yes I do say that that’s a good thing because a lot of the actual cannabis companies are only able to to to make ends meat because of that fuel announced that they were doing TH or they might do thca is that what I think I saw it on high at nine Jason Am I Wrong yes yes yes yes they are they are getting ready to get into the hemp space they’re going to turn on some green houses on their property or at least that’s what the the article uh had had stated um and one one other big Trump accomplishment that a lot of people aren’t aware of and and uh you know we’re just going to keep on Counting them down you know what I’m saying I feel like we on playing favorite playlist Michael please I see a whole lot of holes but literally Trump’s greatest hits you know what I’m saying yes yeah um the and so the other one was usmca which was NAFTA 2.0 THC is actually included in NAFTA 2.0 as as as an export out of the United States and so so yes Trump has done far more legislatively than klet Harris could ever hope to accomplish um in her in her record when it comes to sensible cannabis policy and I’ll leave was the president so he had the opportunity to do something on that on a national scale I mean she was the Attorney General she had the opportunity to prose or not prosecute the case she was she was the district attor she was the district attorney and the Attorney General she was both she could have she could have turned those cases down and said no you know we’re not going to prosecute this right she she didn’t but again but she didn’t but she didn’t but again she also did not do all it wasn’t all Gloom Doom either and then like I said the one of the main things that you give him as an accomplishment the farm bill in my opinion as an operator has not been great for our industry because we all know about all I mean that’s that’s that’s your that’s your opinion and you’re entitled to it but I think for overall for all the people that are able to provide a living for their family based off of that are are are very thankful for that and I think that that is a lot larger number than than than the demographic that you’re referencing well no I mean I think the people that most of the people that got into the C space did it to sell cannabis not to sell hemp I think a lot of the hemp operators and Cole we did a podcast before with some hemp operators that did not necessarily like me putting it this way but I’m very much a straight shooter because we don’t have a lot of time on these lives I think a lot of these people are hanger owners a lot of these people see opportunity and making money and that’s why they’re in the space whereas people like yourself Jason right were ahead of the curve and wanted to re uh to provide actual relief to people there are other people out here that are looking for loopholes to say that they’re in the industry and a way to make a quick buck and I don’t want to label all hemp people that but I see a lot of that being the case whereas it’s not as many people that were willing to play in the game uh in the industry I should say when it wasn’t so widely accepted or government approved right some people stuck their neck outs way before it was convenient for them to do so right so I don’t necessarily have the highest opinion of the hemp the hemp only people I think there’s a lot of people here trying I think that’s a fair I think that’s a fair criticism Michael I think that’s a fair criticism but but we’re we’re we’re talking about economic stimulus do you think a good everything is about money everything is not about money because we don’t have a healthy industry and I think that’s a bigger issue right now well then then then we need to start working on this legislature and get some Instant Tax relief but the problem is the SEIU and and a couple of these other uh special interest groups um keep on hampering any type of progress on any type of tax relief and it’s just become this crazy government slush fund of all of our tax revenue that that we’re really losing all of our profits to and so that’s the the owner is is on the state of California uh in regards to the to the references that you’re making now Michael that’s why we need think an accurate analogy to the hemp thing just to close a loop on that cuz you were like you were talking dirty to me J I like the the him I love hemp I’m actually more on like I view the lens Through Your Eyes Jason more on but look can I can I ask you because both of you are cannabis retailers in the state of I’m not a retailer or sorry you but you’re licensed I mean to say in some form or another um in the state of California do you view is an accurate analogy of what hemp has done like uh taxi medallions vers uh Uber do you I think that’s I I I yeah yeah I where it’s like you guys had your taxi medallions in way and I think that’s a fair and like it’s everybody driving each other but but this came in a lot looser regulations I think I think that’s I think that’s only fair in and in a certain number of states I think states with that have more mature markets um uh I I I don’t think that really really affects it as much like I don’t I don’t think a lot of people that that have always bought cannabis in California are are all of a sudden going and buying Delta eight products just because they see them in a gas station I I’m not really more like you know um I don’t even think more people are buying thca in regards with that that that that that’s happening in a lot of markets that are are are less uh Le less mature than than a California Market or even Oregon or Washington State any any any of those uh states that that’s happening out more more more east and south um for the most part what which is another reason why again I do not think that that was such an accomplishment because I think now they put that farm bill in place where now hemp is freely flowing around the country but we don’t have the same uh rules and regulations in place to make sure that a safe product to be sold and so now what we see no no I think that’s a fair I I think let me finish Jason let me Fair criticism let me just for yeah just wanted to finish my point I think that now it actually gives people who are anti-cannabis an opportunity to criticize the plant more because there’s less regulation around it and so now you got stuff coming from everywhere we there’s no proper testing of it and now people are getting sick and you see these news reports about how somebody was sick and they ate the kids ate the gummies and Cole and I have talked about this on our previous podcast the first thing I think was well what was that was that something that somebody bought from a licensed dispensary was that something somebody bought from a gas station right was that something that somebody bought off the streets you really don’t know where you’re getting you have no clue you’re you’re you’re you’re you’re you’re you’re you’re very true but but a lot of that reason is because of this government over taxation that is not allowing for a fair uh Marketplace to to actually happen in regard in regards to this and so that I blame everything on the government and their government policy when comes TR policy that’s no that’s not Trump’s policy to over tax cannabis at every state level that’s not a trump policy that’s not reality that was not a trump policy it Trump got the credit he signed the bill yes Trump not I you’re say Trump did not CRA Trump did not craft that policy you would that would be a Mitch McConnell more more of a bill we call it marijuana Mitch hold on a second Jason I think I see where the cross thread is happening Jason is saying that these State marijuana programs are not a trump policy that the farm bills correct correct I’m saying the farm bill is a failure and I’m saying the farm bill is a major success yeah because we saying in contrast to the state legal cannabis systems correct I mean it is crazy that like the biget the the big operators like curea and all these [ __ ] are jumping in you know Le’s been in C Le’s been in the hemp space for for a long time they were one of the first companies that got that got a cease and toist letter from the FDA when they when they were producing CBD tines under select so they’re they’re very well that and then that and that’s how I I know too schedule 3 is going to be such a failure because I’ve already watched I’ve already seen how this movie ends what do you mean by that means I already saw what happened with all those letters that went out uh by the FDI already to a number of different hemp companies to those big companies yeah yeah exactly okay yeah I think their product is trash so I don’t think I mean that’s that’s that’s that’s not what we’re debating though yeah I think well my point is only that I think they’re opportunist you know so I don’t give them credit for dropping on a bangag wagon and making more money for their corporate shareholders right it’s a publicly traded company like a big deal that they find another way to turn a book I don’t think that’s yeah I get I get your point I guess and that is a solid Point like as far as those big companies because they definitely they are opportunist and like Jason said that Cur Leaf’s been kind of rolling those dice for a while it sounds like my point really was I was trying to make a point about since it was a debate Jason was pointing out that the state-based programs seems like the ones that are like punitive high taxes and everything I was saying that I was trying to make the point that it seems like all these different operators big and small are saying like [ __ ] it why don’t we just do him EXA agre and I don’t know about glass house I think glass house was already isn’t it allegedly weren’t they already backdooring all their products so now they can do it legally allegedly like I say I don’t know I do not know about California things so if people from California are tuning in right now I might just I I can I can tell you I can tell you what you can you can you can head over to high at night news and search those videos and you will find a whole host of information on all of those topics sweet yeah I can’t speak on what other operators do unless I’ve seen it with my own eyes I know they got some boof that’s what I know that’s what I’ve seen that [ __ ] was trash I was I saw that with my own eyes lots of spider mes bro crazy Mount of mode that’s what I’ve saying I W that that I can speak on I don’t know about what they do with the packs yeah well anything I feel like we’ve uh got you know kind of any other thoughts on hemp or just Trump’s cannabis Legacy at all before we close I know we’ve been going for a bit so Trump Trump trump got a lot more wins when it comes to cannabis policy and uh and and he just came out another big win he just came out and endorsed Amendment Three regardless of what you think of the bill because of whatever whatever he is saying that that he supports it and and he’s mainly saying that he supports it from from a criminal justice angle Cole he’s saying he doesn’t believe that people should be going to jail I feel like what he said though I agree with most of what you said Jason I feel like what he said though is that it’s going to happen if you read that he’s a he’s a realist he’s he’s a realist he he he’s seen and and he knows that that that more states are are are coming up with different uh different uh ballot measures and and and putting and putting this through and you know we’re already at 38 states that have some form of uh of regulated Canabis on the books whether that’s medical or medical and adult use and so you know what I mean like like you have to be blind not to see you know what sucks about his stance though I so again I I like I like that he did make some comment on it I don’t think he went as far as to endorse it like I said he was saying it’s going to happen like you said maybe that’s him being a realist I hate that he specifically said there has to be like a a restriction on public consumption it’s like if there’s going to be one I think it should be as close to cigarettes CU I agree people should not be able to smoke everywhere but to to criminalize it like it should be like cigarettes that’s my thing I’m I I’m fine I’m fine with it like like cigarettes I have no no no problem problem with that but but but yeah but but I well no the the real reality is is is that is that there’s not enough enforcement to enforce on that we have like real crime out here all right New York you have real crime out there okay if you’re just if you how if you’re just having cops just go and and bust people for smoking weed on a corner that just doesn’t make sense right now with what the crime rates are at sure not to mention there’s a major lack not not not to mention there’s a major lack in police morale due to defund the police and everything to where a lot of police don’t even want to police anymore yeah because of the sentiment from the General Public well imagine if you’re the president the leader of the of the country talking about how the FBI is cored and the CIA the people that find the dirt on you are well okay so you can’t just say defund the police is demoralized FBI demoralizing but you got you can fit there’s there’s there’s evidence of it to show the Crooked there’s evidence to show the crookedness okay well then then it’s evidence that maybe police funding need to be you know decreased or something like it has nothing to do with the funding it needs it it has to do with a re-education I’m all for a re-education and training and and educating and putting putting dollars dollars into that in into into that in regards to to how how to deal with cannabis what’s to to uh Cole to your uh original question just as simple about um as far as Trump and his stances right the man lies about everything right he’s taking opposite views on every issue right and so when it comes to anything he says whether it is taxes or economics or cannabis right he’s going to do everything he says just like he was going to build a wall and make Mexico pay for it right that was literally he had people screaming that at everything he didn’t do it he is a liar he did build a wall he did build a wall he built a partial wall there were wall there were barriers oh there’s lots of there’s lots of wallup there’s lots of wall one thing he definitely didn’t make Mexico pay for it right he is a scammer he is a scammer and he will say anything Li he’s a man so I just want to get it back to the point it’s cool like that must have invested in his did you invest in the Trump Stakes just you look like you I’ve I’ve always been I’ve always been a big a big Trump supporter ever ever as soon as he announced he was run running for president I was 100% escalator um I I can tell you I was at the prop 64 Party in LA on the on the on Election night and man I’ll tell you what a prop 64 passed that same night and then all of a sudden the election came around to the presidency and I was me and there was like maybe one other person that was the only person clapping everybody else was all weeping and crying and I was just like what’s the matter with you guys like this is the best thing that we could have had this is the best the best thing that we could have had for cannabis out of the choice that we had and Trump again is the best choice that we have when it comes to cannabis in this election people don’t want to people don’t want to support racist I think that I don’t believe I don’t believe that he’s a racist that’s that’s fake news to me well it’s easy it’s easy for you to say Jason I’m not gonna like it’s not it’s not not yeah you’re totally you’re totally Mis rcing me right now no no no I’m not Mis rcing I’m saying as a black man as a black man there may be things that I see that maybe you don’t right but I can tell you there’s a reason why the majority of black people are not voting for Trump right and it’s the reason why the majority of people of color think yeah but he also he also has higher high higher rates of the African-American vote than than than any other candidate that’s a low bar when you’re at 20% bro it’s a very low that’s not that’s not that’s not a low bar he’s the only person that’s been able to raise the bar yeah that’s that’s a very low bar again somebody that somebody that panders that that openly Pand to black people is not a sign that they’re not a racist right I’m not I’m not I’m not buying all that all that craziness I’m sure but that’s what I’m saying I’m going to just let you know you know again as the as the black representative on this call right now there’s a reason why people overwhelmingly think that Trump is wasting not just black people either you know I hear this a lot from I know I know I I know tons World black supporters not just Americans either there there are people all over the world right I’ve been all over the world before when it comes to elections I don’t care what other people around the world think I care what Americans think well I tell you something that someone told me I’ll never forget this I was in Egypt on a boat and there was a old white man that came up to me and he asked me this was in 2016 right before the election this was October 2016 and he asked me uh what is going on in this in our country right and I said to him I said oh Trump I said I blew it off I said oh it’s nothing you need to worry about and he told me he said listen to me he looked at me as very very serious face and he said he was from Germany was old old German I guess and he said when Hitler was running people did not take him seriously people blew it off and thought that he was just a crazy man who talked funny and talked very energetically you’re trying to say that Trump is is a Hitler bro that’s just I’m saying is is that the old man told me to take it seriously and to not blow it off and to vote that’s what he told me he didn’t say that Hitler or that he was racist what he told me was not to Discount him right and that’s something I didn’t I would never forget because again number one he he taught me that people are looking at what we do and also to take it seriously right and not to just to say oh you know he’s just talking how he talks right people that have lived through it before know better and that’s all that’s my point on that so trust me when I tell you Jason if the man is racist if we saying the man is racist he’s not he’s not racist that’s I want to just let’s close it out on I just want to say that it’s crazy how the times have changed that he’s he’s basically again I don’t I don’t see it as a direct endorsement of amendment three but he’s recognizing the will of the people and he’s saying legalization is going to happen he’s saying that no one should be arrested arrested for weed Cole how is that a direct hold on hold on he said he said he build the wall and make Mexico pay for it no no no no no we’re we’re talking about the truth that he came that he released on Saturday make America great he now he said he gonna make it great again again he is I can’t wait I can’t wait till November I I’ll I guess you know I’ll drop the debate on the on whether or not it’s an endorsement my point that I just wanted to say is the time of uh I feel like even Kim Rivers even Kim Rivers came out with a tweet uh State stating that stating that that that thank thanking uh the president for his this past week he he said that he was going to vote against an abortion amendment in California and now he reversed that that was just this week that was this week all I’m trying to say is that he did not say the words I am gonna vote for Amendment Three he said it’s going to happen he never said that’s all I’m trying to say he reversed his stance on an amendment something that he’s going to vote on he reversed his stance this week right this week he rever completely did a 180 on it so again to say that you believe anything the man says is you just want to believe something he gives you no reason to support no no no it’s the other side is so much worse yeah well so I’m just trying to make again I if I I so again I tried to get over that hump I was just trying to say that it’d be crazy if we could get him to agree if we could get the the general public to agree that okay that’s that’s fine all I’m trying to say is smoking outside part I’m just trying to say that I hate that that it it still seems like the conversation about cannabis is like it it should be legal guys it should be legal but it stinks and you should go to jail if you do it outside like I hate that that’s or admittedly according to him has never had a drink before no but yeah that’s true that’s that’s that’s true his his dad uh his dad uh uh uh pass from just saying it seems like the thing brother brother sorry yes the thing that is holding can legalization back is its smell it seems like all the time that’s the only thing nowadays people have to say that’s bad about it is the smell well I I I I understand I I understand you know yeah well I I think that was that was that was a that was like a toss soft uh that that he did for for Ronda santis because of the of the campaign against amendment three that he’s been uh running I believe that was a little a little Lodge uh toward him to show that he does support that even though this is going to go through we do want to have sensible regulations in place uh to to to keep keep the quality of the neighborhood intact yeah again uh Jason you give him so much grace right and I just speaka if you gave kamla a quarter of the grace you gave Trump bro this would be a no question type of thing right it would be very simple oh what he meant this and he meant that you explain for him more than his some of his own surrogates right that every day you got every explanation in your bag of by why what he said he meant this or he said it but he really meant this or he said that but he really meant this do you really want to have to do that for the rest of your the next four years at least right oh bro I can’t I can’t I can’t wait till till he’s the president again I’m so excited right now Jason to your point I know that the santis has been and it’s crazy they so they’ve been talking about odor just again I just before we close they’ve been talking about odor the crazy thing dude and it’s this part I think they’re being so misleading on the fact that they’re they’re criticizing Amendment Three on hom grow which is speaking to my heart I’m like holy [ __ ] Ronda sanz’s office is saying that homow is that should be a part of legalization and it’s not I’m like that’s a great that’s a great that’s a great uh great place for him to be in I’m I’m I don’t believe him that’s my point like I don’t well he’s already stated it so now it’s all about the the will of the people holding him accountable for holding him accountable for a statement so because after all he’s an elected official he’s beholding Stafford it I think that’s him him saying it that’s him saying it just because Stafford said those are approved messages any hold Trump accountable for anything that he said I wanted to Trump trump holds himself accountable he just flip-flopped this week you can’t call the evolution a flipflop he flip he EV in a week when they said that he was gonna lose his support when all the what I don’t even know what you’re talking about when he said that he was G I think he’s talking about Amendment four now thank you thank you Paul because I don’t know the amendment numbers the amendment numbers but yeah what’s Amendment four uh I think that’s the choice uh ballot on in Florida well for uh Trump’s position uh from from my understanding has always been that that he believes that it should be in the in the in the rare circumstances and whatnot and there shouldn’t be anything past 15 weeks right and so that that’s that’s that’s that’s that’s always been my understanding of his position in regards on abortion Jason what it is is I believe and Cole you can correct me I believe uh Florida pass a six we band something like that and so now they’re voting to uphold that B uh or and Trump came out and said that he was against a six we ban because he thought that the women needed more time when he came out and he said he was going to vote against that and then when he said that there was a big uproll in the party the evangelicals came out and said that they were hugely disappointed in him and so now he said that he’s gonna vote for it he that literally just happened this week oh no I haven’t seen I haven’t seen any of this stuff so you know I can’t no I just I really can’t comment it I already told you what what I what I know his position on on on that issue is and I haven’t seen anything uh deviate from that so yeah send that to him when you get a chance Co my only point is that the man flipflops like it’s not an evolution it happened within a week right he came out and said what he thought let’s say I mean I mean we’re we’re not we’re not here to debate debate the whole abortion issue like that’s that’s a whole another episode I’m anti-trump so I’mma I’mma debate anything like even his character on all you just got to we all know hey just so you know just so you know Mike um when we see each other next time I have a bottle I’m going to give you this bottle that I have full of red pills so that way we can fix your TDS syndrome well Jason Jason and Mike I want to thank you both for doing this it was you know it was fun we’re we’re fastly approaching that election I can’t tell who you’re going to vote for this fall so I’ll just I won’t guess I’m just joking um anyways though uh I seriously you for your time this evening and I want to give you both the space to plug uh if you want to plug you know your social media and stuff um Jason were you about to say something oh no I was just gonna say whatever you do make sure that you vote and also everybody watching happy labor day yeah happy labor day yeah thank you for joining me on Labor Day I’m displaying Mike Malcolm’s Instagram right now Mike G to God on Instagram real quick I just want to say shout out to my shout out to my homie Sergio that gave me this really dope hemp hat this is all made out of 100% H hemp cloth his brand is Joanna Mama Edibles uh Joanna Mama Delights it’s actually one of my students uh city colleges of Chicago is one of my students nice and this is one of his products that he gifted me last time I was in Chicago so shout out to him this is an amazing hat I love it and this is all H and vote vote blue well um so again I want to make sure thank you for plugging that a local person we always want to support local and I want to make sure that everybody heard it loud and clear high9 news.com Jason Beck I want to give you the space before we close um as well yeah no worries uh uh Jason Beck the highest republican.com as well as high 9news.com um uh make sure you check us out on YouTube Rumble twitch Twitter Instagram High at9 news uh we’re all we’re live every Monday through Friday 9:00 a.m. Pacific and high noon on the east coast and everything that you need to know to grow develop and pivot in the everchanging Cannabis industry so make sure you subscribe today and uh thank you Cole uh for for for having me on and uh and my personals are all at Jason Beck 420 Instagram Twitter all of that good stuff oh yeah can I say one last thing Cole yeah to say too I just want to make it clear too that uh I don’t consider myself a Democrat I’m obviously not a republican I’m so independent I don’t even my mom is around here she would tell you when she asked me was I independent I don’t even want to be grouped in as an independent right I’m very much my own I’m a party of one right so I don’t want anything to be taken as uh So Pro Democrats or anything like this I really truly believe we need to get past Trump so that we can focus more on issues and stop talking less about what’s the definition of rape or what’s the definition of sexual assault or anything like that like we need to actually be worried about issues and figure out better ways to work together versus like letting a man a orange man come between our company our Contra I’m going to tell you what if we don’t if we don’t have have Trump we may not have a country anymore because the Democrats want to turn this into a communist state we’re not going to have the ability to have those type of choices it’ll be a similar dictatorship to China and yet only one group of supporters has actually stormed the capital right and it wasn’t Biden when when uh Hillary Clinton lost her supporters did not storm the capital with [ __ ] hats on but Butters the supporters have destroyed a number of different uh cities across the United States yeah during Trump’s Reign the Law and Order dude the law the guy that was all about lowering order when he was last time he was in charge you couldn’t go out your house and the entire country rioted over a weekend right that was when Trump was in office all right well I think we’re gonna TDS TDs is Alive and Well my friends and it’s live right here on the Cole memo yeah thank you Jason I’ll be able to use that as a sound bite and uh folks uh I’m just closing out with a reminder that my uh upcoming mini documentary we’re going to be streaming at Blue Island in Chicago land uh Blue Island Illinois to be specific it’s a Blue Island Beer Company you can come you can smoke you can drink you can have a good time seating is limited it’s on September 18th it’s in the evening we’re going to start around 5:30 um the showtime is uh just a little bit under an hour and I’d love to see you come out afterwards we’re going going to do a little panel smoke session all that stuff come out and uh come to Chicago for that we’ll look at more calendar hell Cole Cole go ahead make sure you make sure don’t forget to vote but most importantly vote for Trump hell yeah all right well Jason Mike uh thank you both for joining me don’t do that it’s smoke at the end yeah smoke some C too yeah by the way yeah I’ll smoke some Crona I got a pack for you Jay amazing can’t wait all right well we’re going to close it out for our listeners that are still here Jason and Mike you don’t have to stay for this but this is just a little Peak at my upcoming mini documentary so beginning January 1st 2020 the recreational use of cannabis will be legal in the state of Illinois available to stream now my mini do dives into the history of Illinois legalization starting with January 1st what should we respect the biggest thing that we need people to understand is that January 1 in terms of the Criminal Justice System here in this state is the end of prohibition see how Illinois missed its chance at real cannabis reform with key failures including the fact that the program includes regulation on possession limits so people can still be arrested for a possession and I want to highlight that in its first year of legalized recreational marijuana in the state of Illinois they arrested three times as many black people for possession than any other race we’ve run into so much cannabis we’ve run out of places to put it I have represented people and taken their cases through the court system who got charged with more serious crimes only because the police said that they smelled cannabis and not because the police said you have illegal cannabis or not because you have too much cannabis or not because you’re high on cannabis but because I can smell it and that’s it attorney goes he understands that he can’t be smoking and his cannabis flower shouldn’t be open and I was like I’d like to say further record that I was not smoking and my flower was not open so uh that’s where we’re at right now in Illinois and I hope it changes start watching now at coal memo.com minock so you can watch it now uh at Co memo.com minoc if you want to um you know asking just for a fair $15 if you want to see it now or if you want to see it at Blue Island you’ll see my latest cut which is just a little bit longer than what you’d see on patreon so there’s a reason to come out smoke and have a drink with me um in Blue Island and Jason and Mike I seriously thank you for sticking around to watch that and thank you for uh all your time this this evening I appreciate you both hell yeah I’m proud of you bro yeah happy labor day baby hell yeah all right take care guys peace bye all right folks well that was that I just kicked them out of my zoom stream because I found out that these YouTubes in too quickly and I like there to be a neat ending so they’re probably like why did he just kick me out because I don’t know if they just saw the host kicked it kicked me out but maybe they did I don’t know I hope you all are having a great afternoon evening it’s about 5:48 over here um I’m taking off take care everybody this is how I’m going to close out from now on I’m gonna like give it a few seconds because I don’t know these live streams might I’m going to switch platforms soon not that any of you are listening at this point anymore um so that hopefully we don’t have as many technical difficulties um Zoom is is not the greatest at streaming live it’s not the worst either not trying to diss on Zoom but anyways again not that any of you care take care have a good one bye
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