In one of the penultimate episodes of my ongoing series exploring the legalized prostitution industry in Nevada, I embark on a captivating journey across these United States to visit a brothel. Stream the full series at ColeMemo.com/Sex.
This project has been a remarkable and prolonged endeavor, unlike any I’ve undertaken before. I am fully aware that this subject matter lies beyond my initial scope of topics, and I acknowledge the significant stigma attached to it. However, it is precisely this taboo nature that I feel adds an element of fascination and curiosity to the exploration.
- Watch the episode on Patreon here
- Watch the episode on Youtube here
- Stream the episode on Soundcloud here
- Stream the episode on Spotify here
- Stream the episode on Apple Podcast here
- Stream the episode on X
Links mentioned during show
- Bella’s Hacienda Website: Bellas.us
- Full series at TheColeMemo.com/Sex
Courtesans and Bartenders handbook as provided by Bella
The auto-generated transcript is available below.
in this episode of the Cole memo I was invited to a licensed bordello in Wells [Music] Nevada R Texas town about the sh outside G you know what I’m talking about just let me know if you want to go to that on the r they got a lot of nice [Music] scares well here it’s fine if you got the time I am [Music] get this episode marks one of the final installments in our series on the legalized prostitution industry as it exists today in America you can view all of the episodes that have been released today at the memo.com seex As We Begin please note that there are some scenes including scene one with less than optimal audio quality to enhance your view experience closed captions have been included to ensure you can follow along even if you encounter difficulties in hearing I highly recommend checking out the video version of this episode on YouTube Spotify and patreon if you need help finding the video version of this podcast see the link in this episode’s description given the extended duration of this episode we’ll skip my standard Preamble and jump right into the action starting with my arrival at the brothel where I rang the doorbell to commence my tour it’s like when the strobe is flashing that’s when I push the door to enter hi welome you’re looking pretty West yeah fit the heart right yes good this is Justin you don’t look Western Justine I’m Midwestern Midwestern wow yeah look at that this is so cozy Bella yeah nice I love it how’s your morning Beth good job we went to Ang Lake and it’s so beautiful it’s stunning isn’t it this down just sure this is our the cour yeah when the Cent comes to the J we um ask him if did been here a the I get a chance might just have hug you and come there we bring the C around um fun you haven’t met yet we asking were you like something to drink a beverage after the alcohol and then she’s going to tell him all about B and what to expect what she like for him to do and so that by the time we have a lineup of ladies that he’s um comfortable enough to chill shot and talk to as many as is required to find yes some liquid courage to start the well or or like you say just water yes yeah so in other words it’s really like it it it’s a brole with the courtesy of the B yeah okay and many times you know just something in somebody’s hand is enough to give them a chance to just s the S and right and then and so this is you know of course this is the um the area right here of what all the lineups happen this is where you’d get a lineup so you’d come in here and women would line up for you right here you could sit right here and you could pick right so sit right here with my cowboy boots I want you they take my hand right they take me over here and then I don’t know when you like to carry on sure yeah let all right so anyway just it’s our ATM the sh that’s that’s right no option do cash credit card and it justes do bills nothing know okay and you can get up to 500 at your time but you can see put your card in as long as the card like us okay very nice and done this was all a remodel three years ago uh the beautiful woman that guilt pass and this was the course that me and she took King to and that one origin way there and which I think is hysterical you know so but this is I have to keep the Shar up yeah I mean it’s too good I’ll probably use it time too yeah yeah but also you have to remember that every now and then one of the staff members wants to put a little sign up there that says stand closer it isn’t that [Laughter] long so and as we had this direction we have several rooms here we have a workout room there we can see in a second this is what we call a conversation room okay into this little room this is the conversation room and this is where we talk about what we going to do so this conversation have SE okay this is where okay typically a lady this not to find out what kind of experience in life and obviously if I take my hands away my knee away you can’t hear me as well right so we do this right and so what we have here is this room where we’re close enough to the bar where he’s comfortable or she or them but we’re also far enough away with there’s a bit of privacy sh so if there’s a lot of clients I’m gu would have to be no but you still feel like you didn’t disappear like get big depths with those but he’s kind of feminine and and yet it’s a little kind of what I call F the ground thing Cent him I like the land isn’t that crazy that was a gift from one of my former body tenders and so you’re going to see a lot of artwork crystals uh a few little dolls things things that are um I’m GNA say help make get H yeah I I definitely pick up all right so let’s say more that we’ve talked about money to pray okay what you’d like to spend on yourself from there it it moves into from behind this curtain you know you can be checked all those things uh push the button the bartender or Hostess will come transaction happens and down yes but from here we can also look at some of the other great yeah and before we go real quick just Justin come in here I thought it was interesting you’re pointing out that if like we proceed and I say hey let’s have this party I’ve got my money and you’re like yep let’s do it you’re saying that right behind this curtain is where we would have the like inspection or is some people call the DC yes that’s how we check yel are right over here is where they do what’s called a dick cheick so let’s take a look here yeah so they got like wipes uh [ __ ] sink and stuff so they’ll you know you’ll lower your pants show them your your stuff yeah and just explain that a little bit more for just really it sounds self-explanatory well it does but you know when when a when a gentleman gets checked for STDs or STI all right the ladies are checked every week condoms are mandatory Statewide you know and and yet they want to look and make sure there isn’t any infection you know something like comdia you you can’t even tell somebody has todia but as long as everybody scratched their hands good it’s t it’s typically non-existent all right but it’s the hands that tend to want to um spread clity or what but you don’t want any you know any of those other sores or or um growths or or discharges of any kind so that’s what they’re looking for just to make sure that um and it doesn’t happen very often that a condom breaks but if it did right that the G isn’t like really um overly concerned sure sense you know it’s it’s still I’m going to say a concern because things like that take a little minute to sort of propagate all right but um luckily those are the things that brothels don’t have we don’t have clients that come in that are filled with disease sure they’re here because they want to stay clean yeah yeah they want everything keep going forward in their life let’s say they might have a significant mother or a wife or whatever they don’t want to take anything home sure and so um and you know a lot of the younger ladies that are coming up uh I’m going to say over the the past decade or two they’ve never even had sex with Al they they just don’t know it they it’s like cell phone condom you know you just that’s and that’s okay yeah that’s good because that can really stop the you know the spread of disease but you know behind there there would be like um um alcohol baby wipes well you drop them for a my pants you guys would inspect kind of look with light I’m assuming well absolutely good because you never know how big it is sure you really want to look and then you know once magnifying glass just in case oh austral big but and and you have to have a sense of humor but you know it it seems like the gentleman really and truly don’t want yeah and then maybe a in a way it’s a little bit of a of a personal Voyer thing you know looking down and saying well it’s not too bad you know and where I think that many times guys really don’t mind right well and like you say it plays into the uh for lack of better words the safety that you feel when you choose to come here to be put through that test you know well everybody else is put through this test too they’re tested weekly everybody has to wear condoms I don’t have much to worry about we really have nothing to worry about you know and as uh your audience would probably really like to know uh there’s never been a c case of HIV yeah never and you know and way back when I first began as owner here syis was an issue and it was always like coming out of Texas M all right but it wasn’t like it anybody caught anything here it was like in the screening we were able to get ladies uh treating right but back in the very beginning of of my time like the 80s it was actually legal to have sex without a condom and many people go what very difficult to understand that it was legal people were clean there was no HIV you know syis was r g wasn’t rare I mean so rare we just didn’t see it and I and it was the same like with bral other brols because it it it’s a place where I call it a destination you don’t have to be um concerned about anything there’s a safety for everyone you know client and and cortis alike everybody’s meeting on like a neutral ground the neutral area and that way they have the opportunity to just like grab all the disguises what would you like she and so together they come to an agreement they may never see each other again is that the perfect one night stand yeah right you know and then you know should the client decide that he’d like to see you again well that’s great but that’s where it stops there aren’t extracurricular activities outside for brothera client ctis and no one ever wants to cross that line no should have should yeah yeah you come here some flavor and as they I know we’re not in Vegas but what happens at Vegas stays in Vegas right that’s kind of the idea Happ at B stays at Bellis right and it’s like don’t share personal information you know because you may not want to call sure she may not want to call right in the morning so if we just take and we do this um I’m going to call it professionalism it’s the right thing to do you know and so we’re what we’re looking at here Co is like it’s this is legal okay if we look at the industry of let’s call it sensual sexual services that is a multi-tiered unbelievably complicated situation that has no solution okay right at the tippy top of that sort of like a little nipple is one state that in the world areas legalizing okay so here we are we’re like this little nipple and everyone else down here and all these tears want what we have but they don’t know how to get there yeah yeah and so I feel in my heart that if even Vegas had a district they become part of this up here and be part of the solution instead of the the state with the most trafficing yeah but the whole idea is how to take and still have things like decriminalization because this is an industry it just rely pays taxes this one does up here but in the meantime you know because it’s so complicated you know the the way down here we’ll say but kind of like by the wars and Dan you know whatever somebody’s train trading for for sex or think a baby or whatever like we’re never going to reach that yeah but you know to to look at this whole idea okay why is Bella sit there that’s the only thing I can speak on and say if you just put it in rural areas where it’s going to work for you this is what you can expect yeah yeah all right and it it if it’s done with with a ballot and with people being non-judgmental and with them allowing the tax money I think it works you it can’t help it doesn’t mean the city wants to City Wells wants to stand up ever and say well I’m Pro because it’s not about them right they’re just merely staying out of the way and allowing something to be that’s been here since 1950 andon yeah since these countries from so the first 20 years of this history here okay that building burnt down same L same um helic cor but when she rebuilt in the 70s this is really what we’re standing in it’s just been redone th the everything underneath so when we look at why it works in D why would anybody come to B it’s a five show yeah it’s not enough so it’s a destination it’s what people come from all over right to hear you’re the closest to Utah and everything else and Idaho okay and then I of course did that article that the poost pipped up New York Post that was you know offering a discount to uton who are the most sexually depressed people well it was perfect I just wanted them to know where we’re at yeah not one of them asked really that’s cool they called they showed up I mean but it’s a good thing I just want to know where we are right pass the word yeah right you gotta keep mocking well I was going to say he can’t do conventional advertising so that’s how you can get into the headlines and opportunities like this yes yeah yes and then what was it was uh Young Turks oh yeah yeah they did a real cute thing on it but you know it’s true now in Utah you I think you have to put up your firstborn and your driver’s license prove how old you are to watch porn yeah yeah right okay and I’m like well usually anything the government gets involved in goes it’s probably going to take a long possibly right but is it really their business especially when I forgot who he is The Young Turks but he goes well he’s talking about going to the machines to get the porn out of there and their quarters and all this stuff that’s natural young human behavior when hormones are raging right so it’s like we get to come to terms with this being human and allowing our hormones to do what they need to do but safely right right you know when it’s um where it’s a great experience because people come here for all different reasons and I really belied with all my heart that people in general out there that have never really expressed um the fun of Being Human CO as well as they could right that they they want to think that it’s something that shouldn’t be talked about or people shouldn’t do or that there’s some sort of a tarnish on it when it’s really the the really best reason to be you know to be in these skins because this is it yeah we don’t see how much we can eat or drink or whatever we do but that’s not the real thing it’s all about that that connectedness oh we might as well just be but yeah straight up so you know I I’m speaking out about this and offering my assistance so that if there’s people or politicians or all the stuff that’s going on in in the Heights in New York that all this illegal activity and it’s on the streets and it’s in residential areas I I know how it works and why it works so it seems to me me that the best thing I can do is say here’s what I recommend you do you don’t have to be for or against it how about the tax money how about the safety because just deregulating does not give anyone police protection right right at all like uh I’m going to butcher the quote this is obviously about a totally different subject but you can’t stop abortion you can only stop safe abortions right so to related to this you can’t stop people from engaging in these behaviors but if you’re going to what you will probably stop is it happening saood yes right you above board and exactly so it goes underground right without the ability to regulate it or oversee it I don’t know what people don’t get about that when you force something into the underground you can’t regulate it that’s correct how about proabition it’s all the same so people are going to get it anyway all right so you know it and this tiny little town it really isn’t any different it in a lot of aspects except for us so where are we we’re across the tracks H they all right build that road just so people could get here without going through town it was it was a more direct way and it was at a time when I think town was was um struggling to to survive and thrive after the opening of I80 okay and because our ad80 meant that all these little towns a person will long right well the increased fuel efficiency of cars they didn’t have it’s not as often so these towns in between just kind of well they turned into ghost towns right right well here we’re kind of a because we’re on the crossroads we’ve got all these truck stops well if anybody’s been in California had a truck stop thing what’s there all they should they call them La wizards but it’s women jumping them shot you know I mean it banging on the truction okay and it’s not good and there no regulation and so but back to that one thing I was saying the politicians I could present something yeah it could be voted on they don’t have to be for against they don’t have to wear a label Pro sex worker they don’t have to label anything all they have to be is pro business yeah yeah that’s what wealth is pro business how if they knew how it was going to benefit the City financially or with Public Safety only two agendas people that govern should be concerned about and chances are it can be reversed but it probably isn’t yeah Revenue Public Safety yeah but even if they’re on the same level that’s what we have here right that we you know we don’t have crime we don’t have rakes we don’t have truck stops deal with working women I mean it’s a clean to yeah yeah for put that many drugs SS to sh so I’m I’m wanting to be that woman that could speak out so that I can be what I call the American matter here’s the deal you know it was like for the longest time I was you know 15 years into it 20 years into it and now of course it’s written that I’m almost 40 years into this look there yeah so that something can gain momentum so that there’s avenues that can open up where I know a lot of individuals in this industry maybe they don’t want to pay the tax M guess what this is the era we were born into we weren’t pre-born and before taxes happen no we popped out right in this time so if we’re going to utilize the money we have to be part of that system but then you know you have to remember how what we what about the trans what about this what about the massage PR it’s not going to work here massage with happy ending no get to see on massage room that that’s all workable but there are certain elements of what I call sensual sexual providing where a beautiful trans won’t make it here we’re to rural Nevada we’re too sort of not redneck but it’s like they they’re stuck on women sure yeah all right and so that’s just how it is yeah so we say okay that’s the that’s the blueprint for that and and I understand why that works and why maybe in the city they could have houses that were for Trans or have something where there’s a different attraction and it’s and they would make young yeah they they would do well financially they reached their goals what is an industry about people with a calling that want to reach their financial goals right so I I I’m really So Pro whatever that is for all of us in all our different groups that we B the doorways and if it’s complicated we’re going the wrong yeah and so I think it’s super simple yeah agree agree but it um you know it takes um having a loud enough voice as American matter keep going what you say yeah and then at least there’s there’s an Avenue for more people that are waking up to their session yeah and uh then you get to pick a room right now Bella let’s continue the uh tour I know isn’t it great all right so we will head back through the little red Dres again and so you probably got something a little bit like that last night on that photo huh yes exactly so that’s like Bel the bartender there that’s Elvis so you know in these hallways you’re going to see that there’s like this thing at the end of the hallway and if you look up you see it’s an exit who wants to know where the exit is when you’re in Paradise probably no one right so it’s sort of disguised a little bit for the warmth all right so then this like I said was the original historic hallway we can make a right turn here um because this is how all the ladies in the original building had to get to The Parlor because they couldn’t go through the bar if they weren’t totally dressed and where was the lineup it’s in the Parlor which we’ll head to so this back hallway it is our it’s our yellow brick road to the new wing but it’s also the way the ladies and the clients leave the bar and go this way to keep the privacy of the lady’s part of the house sure so if a lady is a smoker then this is their area for when weather’s great or a little bit of cigarette smoke here yeah I did see that at least one of your uh workers was 420 friendly which we like well here’s the thing in the Cannabis World in Nevada there’s this idea that you know it’s legal well it is legal but in a business it isn’t legal so we tread very carefully sure where all the the I’m going to say uh patrons or cortis if that is their choice of of a lifestyle that we do it where the house is safe and they’re safe because a lot of the new young people out there they like cannabis they’re not you know big drinkers or or hardcore drugs right it’s just a little bit of that is what they not just became comfortable with it works for them right so who am I or the world for that fact what who in the world should tell them what’s right or wrong especially in the land of the free right yes right well should be land of should be Land of the Free that’s right you know and then here’s the other part of that and uh I can close this because there’s a motor there no problem but you know we’ll walk this way and then I’ll bring up the the just bring up the frontier thing so I remember the same okay so this is like laundry mops um this over here is what keeps everybody warm or hot water right this is where all the the extra storage is the actual um you know giraffe beer beers and then this is just extra for um food you know ladies staff members all right and then this is a dry storage thing in here when I first came was the owner Suite now you have yes now you have to stay in the cooler if you’re going to stay in this keep you like really cool down this was a a little Closet in a bathroom Okay and then originally there would be a door that went into the office but with time that needed to change we needed more room more operating uh ability ities capacities right so it this had to turn into the back hallway stuff all right and then of course this right here hopefully it’s not too messy this would have led through a doorway probably right over in here to what is my little bit messy office my keyboard and my stuff but you know yesterday was payday so this is where this is where the gals and I can talk cuz we’re Team players right they have a business license I have a business license and so the things that we get to to to read about or or learn from or um it’s a lot of the mentoring and for me it’s like a lot of just listening where are they at you know not I they don’t need to be told what to do they just need to be able to talk it out sure so that they can make different choices or stay on the path that they said they want to be on yeah and have somebody say well did you change your mind or is this still your goal and then you get something like this sometimes still my goal okay well then you got to get on the bicycle here’s the direction okay and then this right here it’s a big deal they all say oh Bella hates the triw no it’s just an empowering word and you either do or you do not as Yoda would say you no you just do and if I had been a Trier do you think I’d still be standing here what’s the uh come over here Justin what’s the story behind this thanks to split the Walker that paddle with his ass yeah Walker it was his name and that goes back to like the late 80s and they used to paddle people in the bar and I mean it was a board yeah and he wanted a whack and carmell made a good swing and it just split right down the middle split the paddle okay with his with his ass ass yeah so you know it’s like some things you just have to save right is this I was GNA ask yeah is this a map of all brothel what’s some of them may not be here anymore sure but we do have a map a souvenir out front that’s quite affordable that’s the newest map that I had created it’s the only one in existence that’s me modeling days wow and you know it’s like I guess I’ve been working on this for a while yeah maybe that’s what I’ll get your autograph on the map there you go there so this but this right here is like I’m gonna say it’s the financial hub for all of them where we can just every Sunday how’ it go this week where you go you know in some cases okay do you have a better plan on what you’re going to do with your money it’s all it’s all that good stuff because they have a short career this isn’t something that they can do I’m going to say it’s a little like hairdressing nobody goes to an old hairdresser they just don’t you’re looking for the young one that’s got it on the bul and make it wonderful right so it’s here too I mean ladies that are from other countries can work longer and I there’s just something in their cellular data that allows that to be possible sure you know so and and the other thing I wanted to say about the Cannabis thing okay NADA was known for you know quickie marriages quickie divorces um the um the the the sex industry gambling okay now all we have left that isn’t all over the country is what we accomplished with legal we’ll call it prostitution yeah that’s it otherwise everybody’s got everything else we have yeah true so why don’t you guys catch up because we’ve been doing this since the 70s yeah it works so I think that’s a really good line yes yes it is perfect for promos oh like that door too if you would yeah Justine now is this is this where they get their money or what what is this oh wow okay old second second generation okay was this this is even preash register but at some point in time I will show you underneath where I I initially said this is the where the credit card machine was setting do those underneath were the original boxes okay where each lady you need to take that no no I was making sure I didn’t all right where each lady had a box in there and prior to I80 opening every Sunday when the money was pulled out of each girls box they needed a big brown garbage bag and each G the bag was full you know and it was like $20 dates $40 dates big date was like 60 bucks and honest to God those sacks were full for each Cal okay well then credit card machines M digital so we didn’t have this anymore I even go back to that that slide machine Buster exactly so so we were working to build the new Wing that you’ll get to see when we built the new Wing we needed someplace else for the money to go because we didn’t have 16 boxes out there so we built this right so let’s say there was eight rooms over here and there was eight rooms over there so we would put the money in an envelope and it either said one or onea two or 2 a because this is one one a and so all these things behind here in that behind Yoda was where all this money went and then at the end of the week we’re ripping open all these envelopes right hold that dot let me just make sure the world is good over yeah now you’re good folks I hope you’re enjoying this tour of a brothel I am hello we were talking about banking yeah a bank wants to know if the check’s good can you call the bank and tell them the check is good cannabis sex work yeah paral oh my god do you have to make that call if you if you do it’s okay she gonna text it to me oh okay so you know and I I don’t want her money to get held up so we’ll see when she gets that done then I will take two seconds and we can do it totally totally good the thing okay so so credit cards came buers knuckle Busters all those things and so lot more ladies all this stuff right and then cash registers besides these with the two buttons and the big things and no electricity right well if they might have H electricity but so then we got the cash register for the bar and we got the cash register for the girls life changed so this became part of the historical fact behind Bellis so there was no point in like ripping it out it’s too big a like a a little what would you say novelty sure novel right yeah all right yes we got what history as long as it’s not a like face all right so this right here was the dotto dot picture this much in the Wall Street Journal in 2002 and it was when we had finished building this the Winter Olympics was going in Salt Lake City Park City area and the Wall Street Journal heard about uh a woman expanding her business in time for the Winter Olympics and so this journalist named Carlson he probably long retired he came out to interview me well he got the L the sergeant at the time who was in Wells from the sheriff’s department and they they’ve saw him and he realized they were lost and so he directs them over here and it was like from there you know there could be FBI there could be CIA there could be all these people from all over the world that were here to do their thing in Salt Lake City and then they would show up here at Bellis and so he took that photo and he he just they do that dot to dot thing you know and then they send you the original of the dot to dot which was really cool so it was the biggest thing I had done to date I’d done like HBO’s resx I’d done uh TBS I did a lot of things but the Wall Street Journal if somebody had said well you’re going to be in the Wall Street Journal you know your your articles going to be next to the countries and how many gold medals they’ve won I would have said right you’re kidding me right yeah what are you okay yeah before we all knew we should right so but interestingly enough when I was in my 20s I worked as a as um a maintenance engineer for Crown Center Hotel in Kansas City so I was the only girl it was it’s like a novelty women were supposed to be hired for less of her positions that we hadn’t been allowed to be in Forever but it was President Ford who was running against Jimmy Carter right and so it was the Republican convention and so I mean we all had to have clearances right so that’s where the president was saying you know so the desk arrives all this stuff the 18 floor clears out well guess who’s in the the FBI the CIA they’re all in that hotel so I’m already like documented to the point where they’re in here and they go we know who you are Bella and I said oh good you know at one point I’m like running the elevator for these people you know going up and down and and this guy gets on and I go where’s your bodyguard he goes I don’t know I lost him it was Henry Kissinger holy crap and I said are you concerned he said no he’ll find me not this tall you know and it’s like I had the most amazing experiences before I even got here and so it was like they were all those organizations before they got to Salt Lake City they’ already investigated everything they knew so here they came I got in a lot of trouble with the sheriff’s department over that oh really yeah because he wasn’t didn’t really like me very much darn right yeah so anyway that that still hangs here a couple weeks ago right so we’ve got our we got our uh citrine tree that’s our little money tree here it’s a really great thing for abundance very cool and so you know that we the incense the sage yeah the clearing of energy people leave energy they just do they can’t help it so we get to set it free let it keep it clean keep it clear you know so we’ve got all kinds of wonderful things some have been donated a lot of them are mine and then um as we head down are Olympic hallway which it was named we have Isabella over here miss Isabella gets donated money for good luck all right that is not me but anyway so it’s good it’s like everything it’s like feminine but it isn’t overdone you know we’ve got the uh our little Tibetan Bell oh wow yeah and it’s it’s it’s perfect for what I call the experience yeah so this is just an exit door we’ve got this here instead so nobody bothers to look up yeah right and so when we head down this hallway you’re going to see there’s cameras but it’s really just not to Boyer and watch people it’s just safety sure okay and so down here there are um eight rooms okay and then there’s two VIP Suites so this there’s two ladies that have have left and so these will all be detailed out this one and this one and then was that what that water I was here in somebody yes that’s funny hi nice to meet you good just enjoying the tour yep for real yes so we’ll head down this way lot a lot more art all right and then in here this is our kind of BDSM room so you know it’s a it’s a little darker but it’s got St Andrew’s cross and it there’s been times who it’s been quite explicit in here but now it this it’s enough yeah okay and so if someone wants sort of this I’m not not going to call it darker fantasy it’s just a different fantasy and it’s typically done with a little more Darkness however there are women that if we’re full they may be in here and but it suits their personality because and it also has like it’s right here somewhere or do we put on the outside oh yeah right there there we go no that’s s yeah where did we put that light over here here we go okay so it has like the shower the toilet the sink and it and it works she got everything she needs over here all right and uh and it it’s perfect so like I said when they get this room they’re well happy about it you know so just for visual is it like uh kind of strapped here if I wanted to do that oh it can turn you around oh it can turn me around oh oh okay yeah yeah here like this yeah you just have to kind of straddle out there a bit yeah I could see that being fun absolutely you know different places that you can sort of it’s shorter taller you know so it’s and it’s wellmade I I wouldn’t take it down we had it built it’s it’s like a piece of furniture at this point just dust it and then when you get a chance put somebody on it yeah yes it’s a good thing all right now this room is it’s a little untiy here but there was actually a party in here last night so what we have so excuse the little messy V but there was a a lot of uh what I call dance pool parties MH with happy endings and it works really well with a group of guys even if it’s kind of like a a bachelor party kind of thing and then you know where several guys could be in here they could be sitting there obviously they were and obviously they were sitting on the bed but it’s like they can be together and then they can split off MH and it can so and it can be affordable so they you know they could start with um three dances for a couple hundred bucks or whatever right or however they do that and then or each one maybe put in $100 last night and they were all in for for the dance songs and got some really good gals on this poll I just look at them and go how you do that how you get up there yeah you know they do get up there and then they just are like this and they’re this I mean they do some things that I go doesn’t that hurt yeah so I think it’s a and you know and it’s it’s a that the pole does roll very very freely yeah but you see it’s it all of this can be added to a party where they can begin here they can get a little braver and go well you know let’s do something else and that it it helps people with their with their adventure and if depending on how I’m going to say uh I don’t know if cautious is really the correct word but sort of closed down you know sort of a afraid to just just be wide open where maybe they have just a little more protection around their heart and it gives them a chance to kind of sneak up on their sexuality yeah so we got to sneak up on things you know so I I I like the rooms we have you know I I occasionally have ladies that they get to live in here mhm for a week or two till you know maybe a room opens up over here uh but it’s I we really all work to be flexible and you know obviously we could have as many as 14 ladies in here but I’m good with somewhere between 8 and 10h because truly the doorbell rings around the clock yeah and thanks to people like you it it does ring more often because of I’m going to call it the traction of the internet sure you know just a few months ago and that’s like at the very beginning with you and I you could type in my name and they’d say who mhm and now there’s like a little list and so from there it’s like people want to know more they want in what I work to do is explain it like they know nothing and sometimes I do have to be backed up because we people go do you mean this is it was it really like this because it’s like a different language so you know when I when I petitioned the city to get rid of the lockdown policy yeah that was in 19 right before the the pandemic and it was like they they voted unanimously or the lock down to remove it to remove the lockdown and that had been just like an anchor around all of us ball and chain for yeah you explained it in our last episode but for folks that are tuning into this Bella’s aanda Ranch Tour episode can you quickly explain what lockdown is for folks that may may not know okay well lockdown means that uh you can’t leave the building after 5:00 p.m. or if you leave after 5:00 p.m. you have to have a staff member with you or you aren’t supposed to go anywhere without an escort right and we’re talking about the women that work here the women yep thank you for that Cole but you know it’s like it’s like because I was going to say if you tell me I can’t leave and past 5:00 p.m. it’s like all right well then let’s keep partying I guess you know what I’m saying yes but in their case it was like well oh that yeah that’s the lineup bill so it’s like so let’s say they needed to go to the store oh it’s a big concern right a lot of the other houses you have to have a driver you don’t go anywhere unless you have an escort and I’m like I what that’s ridiculous we’re in the third decade of the 21st century what are they going to do out there they’re going to the store they’re getting their nails done they’re grown educated women we aren’t talking about uh maybe women that are working illegally or maybe have something to do with the blade we’re talking about legal licensed business women they don’t need a lockdown policy right this is not a prison no we got to communicate sure we can’t have everybody go to the store at the same time or that Bell would ring and nobody would be here like whoa what happened oh they went to the store and it and so everything becomes communication yeah well and that not to cut you off but that makes sense when you have a sign out front that says ladies 24 hours I expect if I ring that Bell for 24 hours of the day you’re going to have some ladies plural for me to choose from yes and you know the other part of Bellas that’s different is that it’s a totally honest house everybody’s honest I believe in their honesty they believe in mine all right and so I I allow them to be the business women that came to be so at 2 p.m they answered the door yeah and why would they do that well there’s fewer customers between let’s say two and six but I know I trust that they can handle their business and then let’s say do what they’re supposed to do in the morning with handling the monies that they can run the credit card machine that they really can be trusted and it’s isn’t that way in other houses yeah they just don’t believe in their professionalism right I do right they’ll have the person oversee the transactions and make sure you know and yeah right and so they oversee their own transactions at that I kind of did find that interesting when I heard the bell I was a little bit excited I was like are we going to go see a lineup but I was surprised that you were like yeah no they they got it under control the bells ringing but yeah fonnie fonnie is 6 in the morning till 4: okay but that that’s another thing that’s a long day right and so she has breaks where she eats sure I tell them I say look pace yourself okay so that you don’t end your shift and you’re just rung out okay and then like Porsha at night she’s she’s got the four to two it’s the same thing there’s certain side work great but at two okay we close the bar because I feel like anybody between two and six is here to party they have an agenda they aren’t here just for beverages so at that time uh the way it works let’s say three ladies are really good at the night okay they hear the doorbell they’re they’re probably half asleep half awake they get up everybody that gets to the bar in 3 minutes is in the lineup he chooses the party happens the money is booked in the morning and it’s like it it just is the way it should be and it isn’t at other houses so maybe maybe they’re just bigger maybe it’s just how they feel they can get the most honesty out of people I I don’t know yeah I think a the good guess yeah is that they’re just so big I mean um I think we both know who we’re referring to right now and you know people that aren’t even and America are aware of them and uh will you know apply all over the country um and so like you say maybe with that larger profile uh you just encounter so many people that you have trust issues and it could be you know and I mean maybe rightfully so maybe they’ve been wronged in the past or whatever who knows well haven’t we all yeah right I always say I’ve been stolen from by the worst and the best in everybody in between yeah but I didn’t give up on what I felt is possible yeah you know and now and now it’s like teaching them how to speak up you know if and and how to help one another uh without taking things personally you know if you’re brand new you know go to go to to the hostess you know bartender as your first goto and then once you really understand the handbook cuz I don’t have rules regulations I have a handbook once you understand that it’s going to be simple yeah you’re going to know exactly how you want to run your corisan soul proprietor entrepreneurial business yeah and then they can just leave here with just bucket loads of money very cool maybe later do you think we can see your handbook I’m just curious to see what might be in a a Madam’s handbook and you can you can and it’s um it’s actually I’m going to say within reason most everything I’ve learned over 37 years that works wow you’re not afraid about revealing these secrets I’m just kind of joking but but you know I actually think it would be a good idea yeah no that’s actually you know because it it’s pure and simple this is what works yeah and if you if you if they deviate if the cortis deviate from that well they’re like this you know M yeah you know it it would be like the CB radio all right B they’ve got this thing they don’t quite understand in a way because they weren’t at a time when um like I said you could shoot off a cannon in here and not hit anybody and what what we what I learned from that is the women were so hungry that when that radio came to be as a a basee station in in the house that I mean they were like right on top of it and and the other house was too but the other house changed 23 years ago and so they’re just really not involved at all yeah but what they what and it was before I built the road into Bellis Hender Ranch called Hender Ranch Road and these guys could be anywhere in town I mean three or four of them and gal on the radio could direct every single one of them through the back roads to the parking lot and never lose one of them and it was like but it was this excitement they were they they had this passion they were they understood marketing a new right because it was all right and so it was the only thing they could do right and so man they got it marketing now it’s social media however you’re on for one second you’re off the next on off to it’s not working yeah for them the way it maybe could have uh so well we’re to the CB radio again and but they don’t quite understand that they don’t have to talk to hear you but you get to talk and invite them can you be seductive can you say wow you’ve never had my tour come in and ask for Sabrina I give the best to those are the things that they want to hear the the driver that came in last night you know that it’s there’s their marketing and then the other side of that that’s the spiritual part is when we think about something like what we want what we’re going to attract our goals well it goes out somewhere MH well if I said Cole I want you to do the radio okay you’ll do it four times a day for half an hour and when you’re doing it you’re you’re you’re like punched in like a Time Clock you’re punched in this is what you’re doing this is where you’re going and and it’s your mind is active in that direction so it magnifies what’s going to come to you mhm this gets out into the quantum physics things which sometimes goes like this but it works and all we’d have to say is when did you last think about somebody and they didn’t call you hey I was just thinking about you it’s the same thing only you don’t have to know these people out there so in those beautiful situations what she is why when they’re doing the radio do people suddenly pull up they don’t even have a radio why do they do why does that happen it’s all in the energy field yeah you know anybody’s listened to Abraham for 15 seconds should get that you know for Christ sake don’t turn your canoe Upstream yeah going the wrong way so you I I work to very lightly touch on these things because they’re young and when I was first talking about this in the ’90s in the early turn of the century they all thought it was crazy they all were like when did you say you were leaving I said uh not real soon yeah so you but they began to become like that these new young people they know more they’re cut from different cloth they you don’t they don’t have to call it quantum physics they just know well I just know it works and so it’s really it it’s an such an interesting thing but let’s move on you can see like somebody’s room sure and and just real quick uh I just found it surprising to hear I wanted to make sure I heard it correctly did you say the ladies uh the working women here have uh better luck with the CB radio compared to social media I just is that what I heard you say well I’m gonna say yes wow and a lot of them they they don’t spend very much time on it and I talk to him about it but you know that’s something you got to hit like five times a day sure well you yeah and I I just I just think that it’s it can seem so impersonal right you know you’re doing this and you’re posting and your stuff and I think for a lot of the ladies that I have it’s not resonating with them interesting I so you know but I do ask them well are are you working on your your Instagram or you working on the well yeah I posted something a month ago you know it’s they’re just I don’t know it’s something changing and then you know some of the gals well they had like 30,000 followers and one day they they you know they put a picture up and and and their legs are like this instead of like this and it’s like bam 30,000 people gone yeah and it’s very disheartening CU it takes a long time that isn’t something you just you know go out and say well I’m going to have 30,000 today it it it doesn’t work that way in podcasting you start and you just keep working keep gring yeah absolutely I just found that um surprising because you know we live in the the age of only fans so like what I pictured is that like maybe men were getting pictures of women like by the way you can literally [ __ ] me at Bella aenda and then I figured maybe it’d work that way but it’s interesting to hear that like maybe the CB radio is more effective and it makes sense as to why like you say the social media can be a little impersonal and when your radio goes off in your truck hey you want to come by for a party I mean you have to resist the urge to grab that radio and say hey where where do I go for that like somebody’s on the other end of the line yes yes and here’s the other thing we don’t have their cell numbers yeah so what do we have if they got this device and we have this MH and we invite them over it’s a win-win for everybody yeah and there’s no obligation if they want if they come in and they see everything and they feel like they’re unprepared and they’re going to come back through next week okay yeah and actually before we move on that’s a question I wanted to ask uh for some of our listeners if they’re coming through the area and let’s say it’s a couple and they just like the idea like we were talking about beforehand of the fact that this exists they can come by have a drink and buy some merchandise from you right to support your business couples are welcome we do a lot of couples very cool and it’s the safest way to swing yeah you know just one extra person right right you don’t take them home so it really works for everyone because it’s all safety yeah very Co yeah so they should stop yeah well you heard it here folks stop by Bell aenda you can get some merchandise you can have a threesome who doesn’t like a threesome and uh so much more so we’re going to move on with the tour we can cool let’s do it Justine let’s start a new clip I like the window oh yeah come in here and look at the window Justine oh you know so it’s like elegant tropical so if a person’s going to take you know their a you know like a dance pole room or take their clothes off don’t we all choose some place warm isn’t that like a good idea M yeah and just why don’t you back up here get a good shot of me on this pull here extra seductive your boots there you go that’ll be good for a permo I would say yeah all right just a little you know the chandel yeah yeah all right so let’s go down this way all right so this Wing is you know it’s kind of they love it dark but the lights really do come on right all right so this would be a typical we’re going to come on a typical room on this side and this is uh Miss Ara she’s a beautiful Russian gal and so on uh through that little opening she there’s a toilet there’s a tub shower MH and and this is this is her way of making this personal and works for me yeah works for the clients and so they have the armoir or the Wardrobe instead of like a closet and when this Wing was built I was the fourth guy on the crew so if you’re looking at ceiling sheet rock I hung it if you’re looking at wall plugs I did them I don’t know why I was the fourth guy on the crew for the road building and it’s it I don’t need to do that anymore it’s really hard work to do this stuff yeah and now you know it opened like I said in 2002 it looks good yeah yeah it’s cozy and there’s Stern and the mates are great and actually we we can plug Casper they don’t move and so they’re all like just about six seven months old now but it’s like man it’s the best I do also want to mention for anybody who’s curious CU I’m I’m a sensory person so for me I was like I wonder what it smells like in a brothel smells lovely it smells amazing in here you know I think both of us can say really quick sorry for cutting you off but like you think walking into a brothel it’s going to be like dingy and like Smoky and stuff but it smells good in here I’ve not stepped into a room and been like M this is funky I just wanted to say that because there’s no smell of vision yet uh so just if you’re wondering it’s it’s just fine in here folks we don’t smoke in this building yeah we should weed but I’m just joking I get that you know it it’s like we don’t need that if somebody really needs a cigarette step out yeah step out yeah it’s a lot to clean up after and it leaves a residue that’s almost impossible to get out well and when you talk about worker safety like this this is about safety so let’s keep it a safe environment right and so you know it’s like when you come in here it it’s clean and I think the other wonderful thing to talk about is the feeling tone the feeling in here what’s it feel like to you feels great feels good yeah I like the vibe good energy so that’s a good thing to share yeah it’s up it’s light it’s it’s um I’m going to say empowering yeah you know friendly and um and accepting you know because I always feel like if people were supposed to be farther along today they would be so they’re exactly who they should be today yeah and they can be better tomorrow we learn more as we go through today and I still believe we’re passing through time time isn’t passing so damn to remember that I was gonna say you’re just dropping gems today in this tour oh thank you thank you sharing wisdom all right you coming out after me Justine all right and then down here my dear typically this one bulb is over here and it would light up this gal all right but see it burns out a lot I don’t know why but this would be their laundry on this side so they truly can do their own laundry relax when they need to you know here’s one other room I don’t think anyone’s in here right now but like this little guy and it’s a little bit different design so it’s like somebody’s C oh on oh I see we did this guy just because spiders like to move in so we’ll move out sure okay we don’t want you to like breathe that stuff but you know in wi time we get to because they want to come in where it’s born and we don’t want them right you know yeah we have that in the midwest as well all the critters sneaking in yes so I don’t know somebody saw a spider crawl up the wall so it’s like okay we we we’ll get it it’s time yeah so this is you know how the clients come back out walking on air or walking on clouds right with a big smile yes very I love all the lighting in this hallway such yeah oh yeah it’s all so different huh yeah all right here we are in front yes we are and do you do you think she would be comfortable with us is that the same girl you think she’d be comfortable with us on the CB radio can ask her okay you know what I should take a copy of your little oh yeah yeah I can bring it over to her yep I’ll go grab that and you can ask her before we dive into the next scene I want to give our listeners a heads up throughout this episode you might notice occasional fluctuations in volume these are unintentional and are due to interference from a CB radio Please be aware that this is a technical issue and not a deliberate creative choice let’s continue with the story and explore how Bella’s aenda uses the CB radio to directly reach out to truck drivers oh so much fun and love looking out could use Z part and to help me with those clothes oh no look the party have so we have lots of room for your Rob too with 6.5 Acres of AR they St open 247 is legal safe secure and discreet you can check out and some of lovely ladies on our website us my name is Kina that’s so cool so cool we actually get um a lot of truckers so they come in and sometimes they come in they just ask for me and I’m like whoa you know yeah are they like I heard Karina on the CB radio or how do they ask they usually look at the website and you have to like the photos and they come in and yeah I’ve had a few requests since I’ve been here um you were GNA ask me a question yeah yeah uh before I asked that um I was just curious do do people ever chatter back to you like hey Karina uh H how do I get there like um yeah I mean I know they’ve done that we I’ve had a couple guys they weren’t necessarily asking for for directions but they would just be like saying something and I’d be like call us you know and then they call typically and the bartender will answer the phone and give them the info they need yes very cool um how long have you uh been working here so I actually just started here at Smith First’s tour but I’ve been a legal cortison now for about four years and I’ve worked at a couple of different houses yeah is great I love it so far yeah um how would you say Bella’s compares to some of the brothel you worked with in the past and I think I can speak on Bella’s behalf you don’t have to be afraid of uh saying if they weren’t great and that’s why you came here you know um I think it’s a smaller house so from a personal experience I was in a smaller house for a couple of years but what had happened to me was there was a fire at one houses that I worked and I ended up here because a former co-worker of mine was here and so this is a very similar atmosphere to my previous house but I have worked in bigger houses and um it is a lot more hectic and stressful when you have like you know 20 women that you’re dealing with versus we have like maybe you know like seven or eight girls here it’s a little bit more or less competitive everyone makes their money everybody’s happy yeah laback was the fire this year um it just happened in September at the Kit Kat plus a fire at a brothel in Mound house forced dozens to evacuate and firefighters are now investigating employees did evacuate the building no one was hurt firefighters say the fire quickly spread into the attic when they then arrived so that they had to tear down the roof they say the false ceiling though in the building helped the fire spread very quickly it was just before 9:00 they had most of the fire knocked down and moved further inside and as you can see from build build the video here the building has some pretty serious damage yeah I think I heard about that well I feel like everything happens for a reason it was meant to be yeah so yeah very cool very cool so you said this is your first to or how long have you been here uh for this tour uh this is my fourth week so about a month yeah and you said you’ve been doing this for four years four years I started before the pandemic so if you count the pandemic did you work uh let’s say in the illicit Market before you joined the legal Market no no is it impolite of me to ask how old are you um it’s a secret you stop she’s 28 we’re about the same age so okay very cool well yeah very cool um you know look this is going to be uh you know uh on the internet and people have stigma right uh about this uh industry you know and one of the first things they always jump to is Karina right that’s your name Karina one of the first things they always might assume about you and I’d like you to if you feel comfortable defending is they might say uh Karina she probably had a bad childhood or uh this or that and that’s why she’s here uh they never consider the fact that you might be choosing to be here do you mind that on um well my personal experience is I was married very young and I was overcommitted so now I’m kind of like making up for a lost time and I love having sex and I love having multiple partners um doesn’t have anything to do with my childhood whatsoever personally um and I’m just catching up on last time I’m and I I mean why not do something that you love and get paid for it too yeah and uh yeah SE is great especially when safe absolutely absolutely and we might we might chat again uh later here I don’t want to take you away from the CB radio but generally speaking like for for the people that you deal with do you feel you um serve like what what is what are the people that come in look like are they mostly truckers or is it all across the gamut um it’s we get a lot of tourists like a lot of just random people passing through um mostly from Utah and from Idaho which are the neighboring two states I think it’s like the three states are kind of bordering right here right I’m not really good at the geography I’m have to look me either it’s okay but yeah but so it’s really random it’s really random you know and we get I mean surprisingly very generous men like I’ve booked multi-hour parties and you know very pricey and you know it’s not cheap you know we’re not you know very high class yeah well you get you get what you pay for here right um so uh I’m just curious like you you mentioned you were not in the industry before and I say in the industry you were not uh in the illicit Market or the illegal Market beforehand most of the women sorry I’m actually a porn star oh okay I do porn and I do so it’s Karina kova I have last name um I have a website and you can Google me and see some of my videos so and I was a stripper full-time before I did the porn so I’ve been in the industry most of my life well then my question just flew out the window I was going to ask you if you just joined as a sex worker were you like nervous the first time but it sounds like you’ve been in the sex work industry for a while right so the sex the legal sex industry right so there’s you know stripping is not very much different and then once you you know the pandemic happened you get it I got into like the webcam thing and so I did that and I have an online business so yeah do you get better results from the CB radio compared to your online precin um I’d want to say we need both we need both it’s kind of like a 5050 thing you got to do the radio because there’s still you know the truckers are out there you know but then the internet is good for just the general public and I’m me this is the internet right this is what we’re doing this is for the internet yeah so you got to do both yeah I don’t I wouldn’t say like one is better than the other you know what I mean so very cool well that’s I think all I have for right now we can maybe chat later but uh do you mind if I just capture more of you on the CB radio sure yeah sure okay this is a little naughty okay you say this one’s a little naughty yeah are you something sexy L we also beer spirit bages and canot wait to see you coming for and St 25 seven a week need lot of so wig is too small too big that for your here bab located at 62030 stre this is Karina coming at you from check me out on our website www. yeah very professional that’s awesome that’s awesome you you’d think You’ have been on the radio in the past or something yeah we gotta keep theoda here yeah no but you’d think you were on the radio now if you don’t mind I’ll have you uh just sign this release form and if you’d like we can provide you with a copy just for media purposes here’s a pen I can do it bop your mind too oh be careful don’t break that yeah can’t break this don’t break that can’t break this we’ll have to yeah we have to enjoy it later right um I did want to say that before we get too far into this that I feel like uh you know Justine felt much more comfortable coming here today knowing that a woman was running this brothel you know not to talk [ __ ] about Dennis Hoff but I I do believe that if I went to one of his brothel that that my camera person would have been hit on because he’s a man and he was who he was and we didn’t even have that in our realm of worries today you know what I mean so right but anyways uh right at the top here Bella why don’t you go ahead and introduce yourself and uh tell us where we are today what were we doing oh what’s an exciting day uh I’m Madam Bella cumins I’m the American Madam and we are podcasting from Bellis h under Ranch in Wells Nevada absolutely absolutely and folks this is a really cool experience for me uh you know this if you’ve been watching my new show the coal memo we have been diving deep into an aspect of American culture that has existed since this country’s founding prostitution which I will call sex work I personally think it’s much more adequately referred to as sex work but of course Bella there are multiple forms of sex work uh this just happens to be one of the few that is legal in the United States only in Nevada only in certain counties in Nevada everywhere but Clark County am I and wasow and wow okay good um not good but uh thank you for including that um interesting stuff interesting stuff this is the only place in the United States of America where this type of uh establishment can be licensed legally correct very crazy very crazy what I mean if you could remind me I think we talked about it in in the first podcast but maybe for folks that didn’t catch that how did you get into this industry you’ve been watching this episode for almost an hour and 30 minutes so I’ll keep this message concise by reminding you that you can easily access my first interview with Bella which was conducted remotely as well as all of the previous episodes in this series on the legal sex industry by visiting the memo.com sex how did you get into this industry um it’s easiest to say that I married into it um right after it was purchased by my late husband but he didn’t have a clue of what he was doing and of course neither did I but I learned and I I learned by taking over the the bookwork uh to to actually save us because he had he had spent everything to be a silent partner and uh because of I’m going to say circumstances he needed for me to step up and I had been around brothel uh when I owned a restaurant in Mount house so I knew of their existence but as far as knowing about them the how and the and the why uh and their value I I was a novice I was as green as as a young woman could be yeah do you feel that like we’re kind of LED with that it is easier for women to work under a woman or with with a woman I don’t mean to say under but with the woman it is easier in my opinion if the woman is Progressive all right and if that woman is um I I’m going to say a has a calling is a good Mentor and understands what these women are stepping into and why they don’t need a boss they need a partner they need a team player because typically they’re going to be younger than the person at the helm the person taking responsibility for paying the bills and so and and it takes patience you know they they haven’t W walked as far up The Path as uh let’s say I have and so I believe with all my heart that it it isn’t for every woman you can’t have judgment and you have to see the beauty in everyone you got it doesn’t matter of shape size nationality if you can see one fault in another person it’s gonna fail yeah yeah and you know one of the things we spoke about last time which again I just want to thank you while we’re on the air right now for being so open and gracious I just have to say for my listeners I asked Bella can I come she said when that was the only question when when do you want to come yeah of course you can come and uh as we spoke about last time uh not all brothel have been open to that and I’m not just referring to the one we already started talking about why do you think that is why do you think that most aren’t willing to just open their door like you have to me and walk me around and all that I believe other I’m going to say larger brothel because there’s probably a few smaller that are um a lot smaller than Bellas and let’s say male-owned uh that they’re looking for some attention all right and and they may or may not be you know uh professionally as eept as the amount of time I’ve been in the industry and so they’re they’re just looking for some notoriety something to bring people to the door but when you get to the bigger brothels where it’s an enormous number of ladies it’s I believe it’s like wanting to keep things so under control and and in heading in a direction where no one says the wrong thing ever where they pick spokes women where it’s it everything is such a controlled environment that they don’t let that out all right where there there is security and and things are just um I’m going to call it 21st century you know they this is what they decide work Works work then it’s going to work now and and they’re just going to keep marketing and bringing more people in and and I’m sure that can work for them financially but I don’t believe it’s really the good for the progress of the industry good for the I’m going to say the psyche of the women right you know they they need to if they’re stepping into it and and they really have a calling then what then what they really need to have is somebody that allows them to express that their way MH and so that they can can let’s say you know she has her real name and she has a suit ponm who is that who is that pseudonym okay we could we could call her Ro Ruby as a quick reminder there may be audio fluctuations in this episode as I mentioned earlier these fluctuations are a result of interference from a CB radio affecting my handheld recorder to help you understand why I opted to use the camera audio instead of the handheld device I’ll play a clip for you who is Ruby we might know who’s that as you can hear the audio from the handheld device turned out garbled so if you come across such fluctuations in the future it’s likely due to this issue if you’re interested in learning more about the rules and regulations at Bella’s establishment you can check out the episode description for a link to the handbook that is provided to all legal sex workers this handbook clearly outlines the requirement for the ladies to operate the CB radio regularly to avoid fins I’m displaying that specific language now and you can find the complete rule book in the show notes for this episode now that I’ve shown you that let’s pick up where we left off is that who is that pseudonym okay we could we could call her R Ruby who is Ruby we might know who Sally is Sally is the one’s going to spend the but correctly who’s Ruby what is she here to be in service about for what is she trading for the money for Sally these are things that are they are absolutely mandatory for the success of what I call a high class cortis yeah yeah and you know I just I have to say I Justine knows this I’ve just been kind of bummed lately because I’m such a supporter of this as you know you know I’m completely supportive of this but to ask to go somewhere and to have been told no which has been my experience I don’t know if you told that but I asked to go to the world’s famous moonlight bunny ranch and I was told that uh that you know as far as media goes I’m not I’m not welcome uh with regard to capturing anything they didn’t want me talking to anybody and I found that frustrating may not be the complete right word of the feeling I feel but as a proponent as an advocate as somebody who doesn’t want this to just exist in Nevada I found it so I I just don’t know what the word is but it was just like I I figured reaching out to somebody like you would be harder than reaching out to somebody like the M like Bunny Ranch because I’ve just seen how open to Media they’ve been in the past so again like I I thought you would be like maybe a little hesitant or whatever cuz maybe you were new like those other people you just discussed I did not I did not expect that with the Bunny Ranch and inadvertently I had already uh interviewed some employees of some of their of let’s call them the Hoff brothel and so I just reached out uh to susette just as a a sign of respect you know like hey I know that you said I wasn’t welcome I did visit I didn’t shoot on site but uh I’ve also talked to some of your women and as expected they had a lot of great things to say but they had some negative things to say and I gave her the opportunity I said would you like to see what these women will be saying on my podcast and everything else and she immediately jumped to uh you do not have permission uh to to you know release these interviews and I had to explain to her that they happened outside of her purview those women participated willingly in everything else and it was just another slap in the face where it’s like here I am I’m trying to be open I’m trying to help you and you’re like you can’t release that you don’t have my permission and it was just like I didn’t expect it I didn’t expect it do you think they have something to hide it’s control just the control and fear yeah fear that something will tarnish their reputation well they already do that themselves right but they they’re concerned sorry um that they are so concerned about what someone is going to say and how it’s going to reflect on their success their Fame and so do look I understand wanting to protect the uh reputation yeah but I’m of a mindset that if you’re you’re really running your business correctly wouldn’t all the women already be protecting what they think is the best place in the whole world where where they they feel like they’re giving a big portion of their life to wouldn’t wouldn’t that why would anything negative come out yeah I and so you know is there something that’s less than perfect is there something that needs to change I always say this what do I need to release in order to become so every day what do I need to release you know do I need to release um being irritable about whether or not say sold draft beer you know I mean it can be that silly in a way but it it isn’t it there’s certain things that can deal with sales with marketing with customer customer service with um operations and I know that the um we’ll call it the the Hof houses I know that a lot of money probably more millions of dollars than you and I could ever imagine have been spent to create this Fame right okay whether it was the um the the television series that isn’t at all like actually walking into a brel it was a very good dramatic series that represented this industry poorly yeah and every party isn’t going to be $5,000 yeah and what does the gentleman have to spend today and so yes it it made everything look elegant and upper end and all of these incredible things but if someone was looking for the truth reality I I would say they probably didn’t get a Q-tip worth yeah and and I also I also believe that that Madam susette who I’ve met her I think she’s a very nice woman but it could be she doesn’t she didn’t want Dennis’s position and then suddenly she was in Dennis’s position and all she wanted was for him to be alive so he could do what Dennis did mhm well he isn’t here anymore he had to die he had to pass through and so I’m saying it’s okay if you don’t want the media there I’m going to represent Bellis housei Ander Ranch and the way I believe a brothel of any size with some adaptations for size mhm mhm can involve into yeah what do you think why do you think some women leave you we just talked to a woman that I’m assuming she came from a half a stake Hof brothel because she said it was a larger house I’ve even recently noticed that just going to name drop a few famous sex work her names uh Alice little is no longer at the Hof brothel she’s at the chicken ranch Air Force Amy I recently heard just this week went to the chicken ranch and I actually saw her at the moonlight bunny ranch when I went it was kind of crazy to see Air Force Amy in person I said hi Amy she said hi but um do you know do you think there’s a reason people are leaving uh one of the things she mentioned and we’ve talked about in the past is like the culture there uh she mentioned there was a lot of girls to compete with so I get that I’ve specific heard that the culture can be a bit intimidating uh threatening have you heard any of these things at other brothel I’m not you know I’m saying this about the Hoff brothel but it can also be about anything in Nevada you know I have heard and so this is third hand that Dennis didn’t mind drama right Dennis didn’t mind you know sort of that uh I’m going to call it um uncomfortableness Between Women it doesn’t belong women were taught a long time ago to protect one another protect ourselves from one another who put that in our head no we we should be standing arm in-arm strong and and we shouldn’t we should be celebrating when another corisan does well because if it isn’t today our turn is tomorrow and so those are things that need to be in this industry um the gal you’re talking about that was u in a smaller halfof house that spent some time with you as she said she she didn’t do well in that environment of the couple houses that are bigger yeah and it she didn’t do well with with sort of the um we’ll just call it drama and we don’t all resonate with that I don’t think any of us should really it should be peaceful it should be flowing it should be a team it should be um women celebrating one another’s success because this is difficult occupation you have to be adaptable and and able to step out of who you really are to be in service to someone else you know whether it’s a fantasy or whatever it is and and so it it takes a great deal of flex yeah in in a person’s um I’m GNA call it their psyche okay because it it’s really that part that it isn’t exactly that individual MH but it can certainly be an expression of something they’d like to experience right without it having their personal name all over it um r two random questions they’re pretty well related the first one kind of relates to the first subject and I realize this person I’m about to talk to was in the industry for many years and so things happen people move houses and stuff but last time o spoke uh Kiki lover was here and I’m pretty sure she’s not all in the legal sex industry at all anymore from your perspective do you know did she leave just because it’s like well been in here for a while or do you feel she left on bad terms or she didn’t leave on bad terms with me okay no I I’m we’re both way Pro way too Progressive for that good I believe because she was with me during 2020 okay and then she was asked to come back MH to one of those houses something happened over the next few years that burned her out and I I’m never going to say that she would never work here again but she’s got some excuse me some healing to do when it comes to a former house that invited her back and I she even told me when she left in at the end of 2020 she goes Bella I make more money here but you know my you know I she said I’m closer to home if I work over there and and I had just bought a home before Co hit and I I understood all that of course people want to be able to go home but something in it was incredibly unhealthy and so I just you know I just text her now and then and I’ll say you know are you doing all right every now and then she can be uh pretty erratic on social media but I I don’t know her pain and and I just want her to heal cuz she’s a lovely individual she’s very good on the interview she she understood the industry she you know kind of groomed like Alice little in a way yeah but Alice moved on for a reason too and it’s not because all the stadiums went to Vegas but that probably helped so there was something mhm that just didn’t fit in her in the puzzle yeah of Life Air Force Amy is a pretty crazy one to hear though right I mean she’s been like when you think Air Force Amy you think she’s going to be at a Hof brothel that’s I mean that’s just what I think I know I think if I know her history well enough she wasn’t always in the Hof brothel I think actually she even talked about gosh I can’t think of his name right now owned the Mustang or um I don’t know but no Jim something she talked about a former brothel owner that that did rough her up before she went to the Hoff estate I think she like got physically battered by this individual uh if folks want to check it out just look up interviews with Air Force Amy she’s very open about it it was you can see you can read it in the book it was it was it was a struggle to to get away from the that ran the place the Cherry patch down south to up to Dennis and I was cowering in a hotel room scared I was going to die scared this guy was going to kill me he was going to come after me he was that brutal and scared that um and and waiting for a charge to get dismissed or changed from an attorney so they could because each county has different rules you got to be like white white as snow work in a brothel you have to have pass all these tests and I have any kind of criminal paths and I had like a a um possession char Char or something that going away so it was a couple weeks before I could get up there but my first day on the floor son just knocked it out of the park man cuz I was work used to working in these lock down you know Nazi brothel that made you work in Dennis’s place was kind of laidback you know and I’m taking these smaller parties and I’m being mean to the customers and suzette’s like why are you being mean to the customers I’m cuz he only had $200 she’s she’s like well don’t do it you’re not allowed to do$ 200 parties or less anymore I’m like and I started just nailing them to the wall man yeah just banging them out 30 minutes 5 Grand 10 grand and and call me like a monster because I wasn’t afraid to ask for the money bunny r on the map was sh you you’re the shock radio Queen and we we put the Bunny Ranch on the map with shock radio with shock TV so yeah and I was Howard Stern even paid attention to you guys I did the shocking things I was the one am will do it yeah am will do it am will do it he had be so programmed I’m G do anything Amy will do it yeah no but that was a surprising one for me to hear I’m like Air Force Amy not at the hofa states anymore like what what could have happened you know well chances are and and I don’t know uh if age plays into it sure uh but and she was I was thinking earlier you said you know this isn’t a long career but I feel like she’s the exception she’s been doing it for so long you know yes yeah and I understand that MH um it brings up another Point they’ve got to learn to do the right thing with their money or how do they get out get out that’s what I was thinking you know when I showed up at the Bunny Ranch it was cool to see Air Force Amy but at the same time I’m thinking why are you in lineup and for folks that are wondering what I mean by that I’m like if you know if you don’t know who Air Force Amy is she was on the HBO show she was what I would describe as a very very famous sex worker and just saying correct me if I’m wrong here but I’m not saying that people get in lineup they’re not lesser than or anything else but I’m just saying that like Alice little for example she came on my show and she said Cole I don’t I don’t get in lineup I’m bookings only people people email me and that’s what I think that’s what I would have thought Air Force Amy would have been but like you say it’s like you got to wonder because they always use her they’ll point to her and say Air Force Amy so successful everything else but it’s like why is she still here then why isn’t she buy appointment only yeah or why is she even still here I’m not saying that that you have to retire but you’d think the ideally you would get out right that’s you know end goal I would think that there’s another calling yeah besides just the ctis lineup yeah hang on the tail end of my cold sorry oh you’re okay okay we can edit that out edit that’s really good yep no problem why don’t you pull a chair out yeah I was gon to say if you want a chair or something and and set pull the table out you can yeah you can set that on the tri or on the table if you want oh okay gotcha yes you do do we need to chair chair I don’t want to settle into a spot so h i just you know I get that little tickle or that little drippage and yeah thank golly it was a short one but um it’s fall what yeah but you know here’s I have quite a few gals by appointment only and for me it’s a really for me by appointment only means they did the right thing with the money but they still what one foot through the door and make it a great experience you know you could take like for Natasha or are these women or or or Venus storm yeah you know uh it’s like it they they don’t need to be here every day and so they can go do other things or they can travel and and so it a really great way for them to I’m going to say add to their portfolio without being some of the younger women that they’ve got two or three weeks this works for them they’re building their clientele that we’re helping them attract and and they’re helping too with with the things they do so it’s it’s a joint venture and and obviously helping uh them right now understand how to prepare for the future financially is something that didn’t happen even in the beginning of my career they didn’t get it it was a different time there were pimps there were drugs just coming on of all varieties and we’re not talking Canon yeah and there were things happening that actually kept it more like the street walker like the blade like the stuff where you know he’s just getting the money every day and so now it’s it’s evolved okay and and men have more money to spend for the experience and so it’s helping them understand how to negotiate how to ask for um I’m going to say what he wants to spend on both of them and there’s a possibility that some of the people we’ve just talked about not not Alice they they missed that or maybe there was some drug use and it went a little too far or maybe there was extravagant spending went too far um you know I had a little Asian G before the pandemic that was here probably s00 years and one day you know she had her relationship broke up and she was crying at the radio and all these things and I said what are you crying about she said you know lost this lost that and I said oh well now you can really do something with your money and she wound up after like six years owning like five houses in Tokyo you know oh no Hong Kong sorry correction Hong Kong five houses wow you know buying little Crystal things to put up in the shelves it’s like there you go girl yeah you can retire you’re good mhm that’s so you know just right before the pandemic she scooted home and and she was at getting at that time in her life where she was like you know I’m good yeah yeah so a very different subject but it is one that you brought up uh kind of brought up earlier when we were doing our tour I know that Dennis Hoff in the past and I promise I don’t find bring up Dennis Hoff the whole time but because he was the public one it’s just easy to pull that out of a hat right bad him yeah and pretty soon you’re G to be you’re going to be americ matter yeah and you’re going to be the same thing where people think of this you I have no doubt in my mind one of the things he did was um and I thought this was kind of cool he uh for a while worked with a county and actually got it licensed so that men could be tested for sex work you mentioned earlier that you don’t know exactly how like maybe a transgender person would play here uh but just coincidentally and you know it was just crazy how this happened I was speaking to somebody here in Wells they were just they just asked me what brings you through town I said well you know we’re having a good time smoking a bunch of weed you know going to the brothel having a a time and uh they were like oh yeah really and I was like yeah and I was like all cuz usually people are just like they don’t want to talk about it but this person seemed to want to talk about it so I said you know it’s it’s going to be very exciting and they were like I I actually used to work at a bartender with Bella I love Bella I know her very well uh but I had to stop working because I started to feel conflicted because some of the men in there were propositioning me instead of the women and he said I respect those women way too much I I didn’t want to do that and one of the questions I wish I would have asked asked that person is if you could have been licensed would you then have worked at Bella’s I’m just curious to dig into this topic a bit I want to acknowledge right off on the top somebody that I had on the past I can’t think of who right now it actually might have been Dennis’s former PR publicist she told me that she helped to make that men thing a big story you know that’s kind of Dennis’s style um get in the news however you can kind of your style as well you know um uh what they found was that first of all I guess only two men applied for the job and those two men let’s just say I’ll just say weren’t the best workers and it made me realize like this is going to sound sexist against men but hear me out women can do the work that goes on here men could do it maybe once or twice a day I think that’s a starting shortcoming of a male in this industry cuz like you know when I’m when I’m done I’m like I’m good for a while but I feel like a woman could come out nap yeah maybe a nap yeah and maybe I’m making assumptions so if any women are listening right now and you know you disagree with me completely leave a comment or whatever but I’m just curious do you view I look I get the culture thing this doesn’t strike me as a very Pride eccentric Community but I mean do you think do you think there’s a future where men or transgender people could uh could be here and be licensed to work or do you think that’s more of a city thing I think that’s what you said earlier more of a it it’s a it’s a city thing now why would it be a city thing first of all they have to have a district and and and a destination all right and and because just the population itself and and the uh let’s call it a little bit more left out here it’s a little bit more right you get into Vegas it’s a little bit more left but you know there some other things down there but that you want to set up even like a transgender or how about um uh women and women or men and men that that they don’t do any changing okay it it has to be a little bit on the same line as like a gay bar right but but different from that yeah it can have a are but but then if if there’s sexual testing or if there’s things that make it an experience make it a destination without it becoming uh an emotional attachment to someone where it’s about kind of the one night stands of a sexual preference all right um for a very short time there was a trans uh in a house very close um it it didn’t go over well and it didn’t go over well because first of all if if someone’s coming across as a woman it’s a little unfair in in a rural community to come across as a woman because biologically you didn’t arrive here as one so you have to pick a location a city uh a climate if you will that is in alignment with decisions about sexuality yeah and and men are are they they function um a lot in their sexual desires with attractiveness MH okay and and so if someone does not look attractive to to him it’s not going to it’s not going to work there is a link between what you see and who you choose to date yeah and so that is part of the chemical uh difference between men and women women um women can have multiple partners let’s just say in a day right and with the way um products are now she can right it there isn’t something in her body that has to do something in order for her to have sex right it’s very interesting and yeah that’s kind of what I was alluding to earlier where it’s like man I think the word I was looking for was libido we wouldn’t have enough libido to pull it off maybe you could take products like uh the blue CH or whatever they have nowadays to get you back in gear but it would all require I think either just a really horny dude or like medical intervention to keep him to where he can uh do that but it’s just an interesting thought I I wonder like I feel like when I was like 21 and was real like Supple and stuff like I could have I could have brought some people that’s that’s I get what you’re saying s sort of with like trans gender and the culture and how it lines up but I I’ve always yeah wondered if uh you know brothel leaned into like the the young men side of it if they could get there’s there’s you know a faction out there that’s interested in that you know I I think it has to be more of a another tier of legalization where escort has this testing this licensing and and it falls into this category they can do this instead of escort time and companionship until the door closes so you know and and there is no medical testing a lot of people do medically test nowadays just for their own safety but those are things that could could create another profession uh of Public Safety taxable income and and really from this amazing largest industry on the glob because it is yeah but all every there’s all these little different scenarios that are all still the same type of service how to take and that your trans here’s this here’s the safety um let’s face it if no matter whether it’s you know heterosexual homosexual trans no one wants to work and experience their sexuality outside of safety how is that created we have to create it we’re the evolving species so can we what do we need to release we need we need to re release our judgment our resistance to people being different sexually you know and and don’t make up rules for them bring them in let them help make the rules that are going to work for their individual sexual uh let’s call it business platform right yeah so at one time I was in front of the city council and and I’m thinking it was when I was petitioning for the escort license during um the closure of broel because escort was open okay I can do time and companionship I got this yeah and so when I went in front of them of course there was one Council woman who told me I was tolerated and so was my business and then I went on to talk about that they didn’t possibly understand my calling and if I could get and if God’s Got Me Source whatever it is has me on this bus I’m not getting off yeah until it’s like I see the door and I’m really supposed to go through the door right who wants to get to the end of their days the gold the Pearly Gates and uh and have some energy say something like this how come we quit you had you had a task to do oh do over I don’t feel that way about the humanness that we’re here in the sexuality and so when I’m in front of the council I I I said you’re you’re wanting to create rules and regulations for a business that you know nothing about yeah nothing so if I know nothing about trans gender sexual safety and uh tax laws and licensing well wouldn’t you bring in the people that can help create that if it’s a massage with the Happ wouldn’t you bring in the people that can do that it it would be adding very little right and then it’s it just makes sense I looked at the mayor and I said well how about I come in and I do your job for a week with no training she’s doing this shaking her head she so my God you can’t do that I said the same thing applies right you can’t it’s impossible for you to understand when you’ve never even come through the door right how this works why this works why it’s still a destination and why there’s still ladies that are choosing this profession yeah how does the town feel about these establishments uh we spoke the reason I asked I spoke to like I think it had to have been a high schooler the other day it just seemed very normal we didn’t speak to her about this we just spoke to her like how big is this town you know stuff like that and it sounds like it’s a small town where people come in from the different valleys I’m just curious though yeah how’s what does this town from your perspective think of your business are they receptive are there some vocals no our county commissioner who happens to be a a a wonderful Mormon Rancher you know when he got out got in on the as a commissioner for this area um the biggest area in O County uh a lot there were fellow religious congregational members that said all right now we can close them down he said no we aren’t yeah he said they have been here as long as I was a little boy we need them that’s wonderful now is it the tax money why does he think why does why do you think they need you it’s all of it it there’s the you know the the licensing fee is is way more than any other licensing fee in this town it’s the uh the donations it’s the tax money I PID at Elo County that comes back to Wells yeah um it’s uh it’s the here’s the biggest part when a client or a guest comes to BS this is an only place they stop just look at you food gas uh lodging um maybe the dollar store for batteries I mean all you’re going to spend money everywhere if I wasn’t here you never would have shown up oh yeah no you would have had no reason no so that’s and it’s like I told the the the present city manager I said I’m going to do everything I’m able to help this town financially but I can’t make them stop at one service station or the other but I can certainly invite them in sure for the experience of a of a town that allows us the freedom and I’m going to say the the the ability to stay licensed and legal without being asked if they’re for or against yeah do you have uh we don’t have to get it now we can look at it later along with your handbook but do you have like a do they give you like a license a brothel license yes it’s on the wall oh cool that’ll be cool to see I have an escort too I love the escort yeah yes so you are licensed as an escort really okay that’d be very cool to see and if we need to Omit personal identifying we can but I’d love to see an actual license because didn’t you just change it in this County so that it’s it says licensed sex worker instead of licensed prostitution or were you working on that it’s still at the attorney’s oh so it like went up a level or something and they were still you know they think the attorneys think they should update the code okay what’s the code rules and regulations for what something they’ve never done right so that’s going to be pretty exciting when it comes out but one of the changes should be cortisen oh cortis instead of house of prostitution It should read uh like brothel and and and why am I after that because the the biggest part of the sexual industry is illegal why should these women who spend their money to be legally licensed carry the same label yeah how unfair is that even the garbage man became the trash man became the sanitation engineer became I mean all that evolves and you’re going to still call licensed women a prostitute sorry to keep bringing up weed but it used to be a drug dealer now it’s a wellness adviser oh good right you know so so adapting with the times well and if you think about it what what was it it was weed then it was pot yeah it’s cannabis yeah you know and there were other terms sure but you know it’s like now it’s you know and then uh marijuana mhm medical marijuana well was it all medical right God put it here it must be all medical right yeah but you know I the the one thing that I believe with all my heart uh and it deals with safety is that it’s a really good idea to buy from a dispensary unless you want to risk something like Fentanyl because things are changing out there in that black market world yeah and you don’t get a second chance for some and so it’s like don’t do it yeah very well said and maybe it’s a little more expensive maybe it’s a higher THC than a person would used to get in the the Mexican stuff but everything evolves right and so with you know like brothel it should be filled with elegant uh professional um non-judgmental uh women with a calling for whatever length of time yeah and you know um here in a bit we’ll step out to get some cool shots of you approaching the brothel and stuff but just to kind of wrap up this uh conversation and we can probably do this again tomorrow and stuff but I just I thought it’d be good to have a conversation about uh the potential health risks which I think most of them are addressed through the regulations so for example as we all know condoms don’t prevent against everything but since they’re tested every week and tested monthly for HIV they they can catch things and they can uh be proactive take proactive measures to uh remediate let’s say any anything that may come up are there any other setting that aside because we all know that that’s not exclusive to this here that’s like what everybody has to worry about just in the world are there any health considerations that the women here should be aware of and I I can just lead if you if you feel like I’m like fishing for a question I’ve just heard that like certain women after working in this industry for so long couldn’t become pregnant I don’t know if you’ve heard about things like this or anything similar to that [Music] um you know I I feel that there is a a a possibility sure that having um I’m going to call it a body part that has made maybe done more than it was designed to do can have some sort of scientific ramification but then that’s also why they shouldn’t just matter how to bre they should work you know a certain amount of time take a break but if if a person was to think about that well that’s why it’s worth I call it the extra money all right because besides a guest getting exactly the kind of woman they’re looking for she basically can work half a year so what do you want her income to be all right and so it there is a wear and tear on our body when matter if you were a brick layer it’s about to say yeah you know you you pick up that same block with this hand all right and you do the same stuff over here this one’s going to wear out faster than this one yeah and so our body needs repair time and that that’s any industry yeah very well said is there anything else that should be considered I mean I I have to imagine that you have to put yourself almost like when a police officer goes into duty you get yourself in a mindset of like I’m on duty things might happen but it’s part of the job and you kind of like turn it off and the reason what I’m kind of thinking of again if you feel like I’m fishing it’s like do you have any advice for women that don’t want to feel objectified because I think that’s possible if if you work here for a while you could start to feel like these truckers just pull up they ring the bell and I just get in line and you know do you recommend like Mental Health Services for women or what how do you address something like that I don’t recommend Mental Health Services uh unless let’s say a lady has had a difficult childhood difficult teen years difficult whatever it is it doesn’t mean abuse it’s how she felt about something doesn’t even have to be sexual as I said but in any industry we could use that same analogy of like a peace officer Yeah okay or or a cortisen they aren’t the job and so they have to be careful not to become the profession they’re a this body that they have and and being something for someone that they’re willing to be is still a line all right so if if Suzy can’t keep a dividing line between that and and the character and it becomes convoluted that would be a lot like Norma and Marilyn mro who killed nor maene Maryland and so that’s in any profession I say I’m Madame Bella that I’m the American Madam but that’s my profession that’s that’s what I’m here to do but I’m I’m I’m not this I’m just in service to this yeah and I I is it is the line of who I become a a little more like this but it’s a healthy line it’s it’s a it’s helpful to other women and guests there is nothing about who I’ve become and and this line between who goes home and who sitting here that is very far apart right but I’m I’m aware that if for some reason this sold and I got to talk about this everywhere but I wasn’t Madame Bella as far as the owner of Bella’s H and ranch I would go on I would still exist because I’m me yeah yeah and I think we get to remember that because sometimes when people lose their career or let’s get fired let’s say all of a sudden it’s like that that was who they thought they were and they aren’t right this is like very therapeutic for me to hear you say this because I sometimes I make myself the job or even sometimes I make myself this and it’s like hold on Cole you have to remind yourself it’s just a hobby in this case this is just a way for you to get what you want in life right like that’s what this is like you said you ask girls what is your goals what are your goals you know it’s easy to forget that yeah we we don’t always live to work sometimes we work to live would you say that’s a pretty way a good way of putting it it’s a way that we do when we’re younger and and and it’s called wasting time but we have to go through that in order to wake up yeah yeah and you know every now and then I think well when am I supposed to pass the Paton mhm and still have accomplished what I was sent here to do yeah and I I’m I’m so passionate about it but then every now and then I go oh CP geez what what the heck am I doing what have I signed myself up for I know was it in blood so you know those are the things that that that’s that little you know ego little angel ego well you know nobody in your family ever amounted anything don’t listen to him you it’s like we go through that you know you’re Cole Preston yep you’re not Cole memo but you’re willing to be you’re willing to show people who you are D and I am and so you know if I come in here and I go W they just look at me like this yeah yeah because I mean really if I if I say the f word they think the world’s coming to an end but what it means is I i’ my humanness is a little bit like instead of like being in alignment well oh it’ll all work out what do we learn from this how can we just go around the rock like this do we always have to hit the rock and sort of wash up on the the shore with what’s left of the canoe and and and when they’re young they want to hit everything’s dead on you know it’s like I’m going to move this rock well how many times do we hit the rock Cole right before we really get tired of being wet and building another canoe yeah and that’s where I’m at why did I invite you I want you to know I I wanted to meet you in person yeah so the idea is like for me there’s no way I can make this stuff up this just stuff comes out of my mouth what is saying this stuff that’s funny I think in my heart it’s bigger than me yeah I’m a messenger don’t shoot the messenger I’m just sharing with people you don’t you know it’s like going into a department store you don’t have to go you don’t have to go in and judge everything you can go in you can get what you’re looking for and you can leave you don’t have to critique everything in there and say well who the heck designed this right you know who who made that print yeah you know it’s like it’s a waste of our time it’s a waste of our life and it goes by so quickly and it’s really so precious that sometimes I really I go Tick Tock yeah H wonder if I should be at the beach you know today I’m here yeah and so I’m I’m GNA allow this time to be something memorable for all of us yeah well said well I see the sun’s peeking out I do want to hit you with this last question and I think it’s important it’s what fascinates me so much about uh the sex and industry uh I’ll call it that right now unfortunately and I wrote this down because I won’t be able to say it as well as I wrote it down unfortunately it seems that legalization I say that in quotes does not adequately address the issues with the criminal justice s system similar to the legalization of cannabis the legalization of sex work does not include complete decriminalization full decriminalization in my opinion is different from Mere legalization most of us think of legal as the end goal and you think it’s legal that’s that’s great right but I often view that as something that comes with regulatory strings attached that serve more the interests of those who wish to monopolize the industry than those of the workers or even the patrons um are you a supporter of the complete decriminalization of sex work it sounded like you were with the thing you said about Vegas earlier that there should be a district there and stuff uh Cole in this lifetime there is absolutely no way to do anything legally without regulation it’s been created yeah the even the archaic code that allows me and other brel to exist is really the Nordic law it points at the man if he buys it outside of a breel right he’s cool if he’s in here or a couple or a woman cool you’re good you’re golden but it’s really designed even way back then to stop individuals from being able to manipulate other for sexual sensual purposes in a way way ahead of its time because it really was talking about trafficking as well or young children leave them out of it you know that’re they’re going to experience what they what they get to and there’s way too much molestation that goes on that they’re doing nothing about so it’s like the focus of the Criminal ization which keeps buyers and sellers from being criminals is a really something that gets to be uh solved but because people do things they shouldn’t do and that’s harmful to one another MH if you don’t have a location if you don’t have a regulation if you it’s not police aren’t going to come to your Aid yeah they won’t you know so it’s like it has to be with regulation and then if legalization enters into it well that’s just another positive for what I call a profession all right that that can be uh incredibly manipulative and harmful that was never meant to be harmful and how because people do things they shouldn’t do there’s those like myself that say no no no no it it’s like saying you’re breaking the law yeah so um I it isn’t an easy question as we’ve talked about it’s this huge tier of an industry yeah we’re not talking you know like carpentry right know we’re talking something that the entire planet does everybody yeah it always has so how big is that industry right and how are we going to bring bring it out of chos and into something that’s as beautiful as it should be yeah well sudden well we’ll continue this folks I hope you’re enjoying this as much as I am Bella I hope you’re having fun today I am okay good I am because I get to talk about stuff that I’m very passionate about yeah so but you know when when it’s it’s a good line how do you bring it back into that alignment of beauty out of this incredible chaos yeah that’s that looks so tarnished and you know you look at these gals that that choose to be here with me they’re amazing yeah very nice and everything so well we’ll pick this up here in a little bit yes exactly y all right Justine how’s that that camera looking is it good I set it up I thought it looked y all right you ready to start rolling yep I got to assume that usually when a man sets up a tripod with you it’s usually not like this yeah right right um tell can you before we get into all this uh the goal of this is to help get you public publicity and everything else uh why don’t you go ahead and tell our listeners uh your name and where they can find you my name is happy and I can be found at Bell Henda Ranch in Wells Nevada awesome awesome and uh the website what is it bell bell bell. us bell. us and uh happy so if they search up on the website they can see your name pictures and stuff and then get connected with you from there that’s correct awesome cool well folks if you like what you see there you go um so happy how long have you been been uh in the industry uh two and a half years two and a half years awesome and uh is that just two and a half years in the legal industry or did you uh do anything like pornography or elicit work beforehand or um two years in the brothel industry I did not do anything like this at all before really really so how did you find yourself here um A girlfriend of mine called called me out and told me to I should try it yeah and I tried it and I’ve been here ever since but like what was the pitch like was it like happy you’ll never believe how much [ __ ] money I can make out here what what what got you what got you out here because this is yeah uh she just told me to come out here and try life she’s like why don’t you come out to Nevada and try life and I came out here and stayed yeah and it’s been two years so obviously you’ve been enjoying it I have yeah is this the only house you’ve worked at I worked at one other house gotcha is it uh around here or acoss Carlin it’s about an hour and a half away oh gotcha gotcha I’m just curious what is the you know not to give other people advertising but what’s the name of the ranch dovetail okay cool um and as somebody who never got in the industry and never had been in this industry how did you I’m sorry I just feel like most people tuning in right now they might be wondering the same thing like how did you put yourself in this mental space to come here I’m just curious like was it not that big of a deal to you or did you have to kind of like talk to yourself [Music] um I was preoccupied with the mischievous activity okay okay so my friend said why don’t you come out to Nevada and try it out here and see how you like it so I came out here and tried it because if I could take a guess because this is maybe less mischievous in in in the fact that it’s legal and lucrative lucrative yeah have you we don’t obviously have to get into figures but you’ve been making good money if you’ve been in here for two years very good yeah good good for you well that’s awesome and I’m just curious what has this life lifestyle afforded you I’m sure since you’re making a lot of money some Financial Freedom right lots of Financial Freedom yeah what do you uh you know without getting into destinations or whatever what do you do with your time do you travel um I SP I spend time with my children my family oh cool for the most part spend time with my family very cool very cool and one of the things I’ve been asking all the women uh that that I’ve been speaking to there’s a lot of stigma in this and many people assume that I’m just going to like think of so we come from like I said the Midwest there’s a lot of it’s probably actually culturally a lot like this area like country I don’t always dress like this by the way I’m just dressing like this CU I’m in Nevada but uh the people that we live around do dress like this and they have certain thoughts and one of the thoughts that they might have is uh that that maybe you didn’t choose this work um you know something like that what would you have to say in other words people always seem to ascribe it to a woman would never choose to be in this work something bad must have happened to her in her past what do you say to that person how do you talk to that person um we all have trouble past we all come from different backgrounds and different types of trauma and abuse and anybody can end up here from any any any style or any style of Life yeah or end up anywhere else right true you know like one of the points that um I don’t know if you’re familiar with this person I spoke with Bella about it but one of the points that I thought was so brilliant that Dennis Hoff has made in the past a journalist was interviewing him and said a certain percentage of the women might have been molested that that work at your establishments and he said yeah a certain percentage of women at this new news station may have been molested so what it’s not unique to this industry right right right yeah it’s very interesting to think about um does your do what do do you tell your family that you work in this industry um my mom knows yeah yeah what does she does she have any thoughts about it um she she’s thrilled that I’m making productive changes yeah to have a successful life you I just have to say oh yeah no problem okay I I’m sure you already said this I just want to say baby if there’s anything that you want to delete or you’re not comfortable with you just tell cool yeah I just don’t know if I’m answering the questions right that’s all you’re answering you’re them your way I want you to be comfortable okay this isn’t about right wrong or good and bad he told me from the very beginning Bel answer what you’re comfortable with okay that’s all it is so again if you say something where you’re like or if you even like step away from tonight and you’re like I shouldn’t have said that you uh she’s got my contact info you can reach out we could work together and we can cut whatever you want out okay right so I just want to make sure that you knew that okay but what I was about to say funnily enough you seem to be really comfortable with media uh honestly which is funny given have you like have you done something like this before never no okay cool cool I just am watching you and I’m paying attention to how what you’re saying and you’re very like careful about what you say and how you say it and that’s just admirable because I don’t have that quality I run my mouth so so yeah you’re you’re awesome but anyways um well this is really cool this is really cool so just your mom knows is there any reason uh do you think it’ just be too tough to talk to the rest of your family about it or um well my the adults in my family know like my mom my sisters okay I’m pretty sure like my cousins maybe my mom’s sisters yeah um my children I I think they know they think that I’m a bar tnder oh okay um however I do make a lot of money um I don’t think I don’t know if kids ever question that yeah but um she’s just a good bartender I kind of have a feeling that they know yeah and I and I’m a strong believer of what’s done in the dark will come to light so they will know at some point yeah after before during or after this journey yeah and I ask these questions uh about how your family feels a lot of these questions I ask is so that other people that might be considering this work know how to like deal with these family Dynamics and stuff so I’m just curious yeah do did you get any like for lack of better words [ __ ] from your family about this like oh what’s what’s happy doing no no no awesome that’s very cool to hear that’s very cool to hear and this is a this is you know sort of a tough question I guess maybe not for you but for me to ask have you had any negative experiences in this industry industry yeah um nothing nothing like traumatizing negative nothing like not at all good good and what would you say what is that beeping sound you the front door opening okay front door’s open cool um what would you say typically is your clientele uh you know I notice the CB radio is it mostly truckers is it people passing through town can you not really put your finger is it not a consistent demographic or um truckers people traveling through town or people that are like working around the area and like it’ll be like um like oh it’s a six it’ll be like a six-month project and like their job will have them living in hotels locally and they’ll like stay locally and then they’ll like go to their work site so like they’ll come and then we get miners um as in people in the mines gold miners yeah not children yeah right so anyways um sorry for the stupid joke um that’s that is interesting and I’m just curious is it like do you have to I mean obviously they bathe and stuff beforehand but truckers don’t sound like the most glamorous group to deal with is that is that tough um they are everybody’s different but we have a sh show here for them so they can shower before and after their parties if they need to yeah I guess to ask a kind of a blunt question maybe I’m being crass against truck drivers but truck drivers strike me as the type of people that would be like like you’d come in and you’d maybe try to make some small talk and they’ just be like H suck my dick do they get that do they get that way or are they pretty generally nice or they’re they’re generally nice and they they um have like a lot of time spend you know like to kill yeah so like they’ll like sit and they’ll have a drink and they’ll talk with you for a while and then um maybe negotiate a party and then drink a little more just because they have so much time to kill yeah so sometimes they’ll have like 10 hours before they can get back on the road so they’ll come in here and drink and shower party with the ladies and then go back out and sleep very cool that’s a pretty awesome pit stop and I’m just curious I hadn’t asked uh some of the other workers this question is it we were wondering this on the way here does a man generally come in and is he just like give me head or is it like is it a mixture do men mostly want sex like is there anything something a man seems to mostly want I’m just curious um so they usually don’t know what they want okay um for the most part it’s generally um head and sex um but they don’t usually know what they want some will be specific like I want to make out with you I want to have the girlfriend experience with you I want a lot of caressing I want massaging so some guys will know exactly what they want and then others don’t know what they want so you kind of that’s when you come in with a sale like I I do these types of things we can do this I like come in with a bunch of uh massages laugh dances yeah but it sounds like most guys want what I think has been called in this industry for a long time Bella you can laugh at me for this one a half and half yes isn’t that what it’s called yeah so half half and half yes yeah gotcha gotcha what are some of the crazier uh parties you’ve done I think this is probably a fun conversation I saw you have a BDSM room is there any crazy stories I’ve always heard some crazy stories nothing too crazy for me somebody came in recently and asked me to pee in a cup I just like stood in the um in the stand in stand up shower and peed in the cup and that’s it yeah yeah so they just they said so I just for tonight I want to see you pee in the cup and did they ask for the cup or um no they didn’t want to PE they just wanted to see me PE see you pe and did they like sorry to this is just fascinating did they like lay on the bed and pleasure themselves while you peed in the cup or did they just like watch it we have a we have a bathroom with the I’m walking shower so I just stood in there and squat into a cup and I peed and he had me turn around so he could watch so you could see yeah that’s it yeah and I’m not obviously I’m not asking I know you don’t want to say your prices but did you make pretty good money off of that simple request I’m just curious um that simple request was um not a not a cheap thing it was no it was cheap it was it was cheap cool yeah interesting CU he yeah it was cheap now that’s probably the reason you say that is cuz that’s probably not an off that’s not a regular occurrence that people just ask it’s not a regular occurrence in like he had talked to somebody else before and he told her how much money he had and she like walked and she had um came in and she said how much money he had so I went in there and um just as soon as I got in there he just said all I want is to see you pee in a cup I have this amount of money I said let’s do it gotcha just curious what is like your most common fetish you encounter like is it BDSM is it like what is is it usually um the most common is fetish um Kink or whatever I don’t know exactly the right word nothing really out of the ordinary like um this why this guy wanted me to shake my ass in his face the other day I thought that was kind of weird yeah yeah ju that’s it that’s he just wanted you to shake your ass in his face yeah well not just that but like part of it and like he mentioned that like like if if they tell you what they want in the negotiate specifically and then they go to the and they’re like dead set on getting that then um of course it’s never a problem because you guys negotiate about it in advance but um he said that and I just kind of laughed I just kind of laughed because you know there’s a song where it’s like oh girl put it in my face and I just kind of laughed like oh he wants me to put my butt in his face and then like when we got to the room he really wanted it yeah he’s like no seriously can you do that yep that’s awesome yeah that’s awesome yeah I was just curious if like nothing out of the ordinary nothing too weird unfortunately yeah nothing actually weird at all yeah what like what is do PE like is there a consistency among men where like I guess what I’m getting at is it’s it’s interesting to me that it seems like it’s not just sex sometimes like certain people are into like boobs or you know whatever yes um for the most part it’s sex yeah yeah for the most part yeah very cool very cool you uh we’ll start to wrap up here do you ever do I have heard of other brothel doing this type of stuff and it sounds really cool like outdates with people or anything like that I’ve never had an outdate here yeah yeah but I do offer them you do offer them I do gotcha I’m waiting for the right date to come along there you go good to know folks um I guess just Yeah final questions here uh why why did you leave the last brothel that you were at I wanted to try a bigger house cool cool so this is bigger than the last place you were at yes very much bigger very cool well hey is that the Bell Showtime Showtime well hey we don’t want to get in the way of you um thank you for sitting down with us today and maybe if you’re around tomorrow we can chat again if not no worries but I just really appreciate you being open to chat and as Bella said and I said if anything comes up Bella’s got my number my contact information just let us know okay okay okay take care have a good night you as well thank you yep the highend outdate yet so these girls that are are they going to a gas station to to meet grocery store oh Oh I thought you were meeting I thought they were meeting like a a yeah to to bust them here I was like oh I didn’t realize the girl shutle service what happens is the girls give up the number they’ll call on the phone uh and then I’ll have like happy who’s a senior qutis son she’ll keep an eye in the house and I’ll run and get him from the truck stop bring them back and then we do a lineup and then when they’re ready know I run backs back right are long okay now um tell no they me yeah thanks s so you know I I I trust them all to you know just speak the truth all I’m asking is that you that you tell them that so that they don’t um because they’ve never done that yeah no I actually feel so bad that I didn’t tell her that because as soon as she said that she was like open cool and usually usually I do say that so thank you you’re welcome and and I could tell by her energy that she a little bit like the butterfly with the wings going this way and and she’s very open and so you did get to see that but it’s like look all of them it it’s so important that they feel safe absolutely and that’s the one thing I I offer here is they can speak up and and you know I I I once had one documentary that really went South and it was like somehow or another it was it looked like party drunkenness and it I can’t say that it was but that was the spin that it wound up taking right and I know that that since this isn’t our first time together you understand what I’m what really is his what I’m never what I’m open to having their their opinion you know them to talk about because I don’t put a gag order on anybody yeah but I wouldn’t you know expect to have women that would you know say good things to me and then when I’m not in the room or something but something else would come out yeah so uh I just I would rather you know that yeah but you know that’s why you know I I started to smile with her openness because she suddenly could bring out what she is with us yeah and and you of course getting much better podcast say um the runner in town what is what I told him to make sure he collects his feet but I don’t even know what it is in town it’s 10 10 for each girl yeah 10 for each girl okay I got to get the 200 for him to pick up may okay um oh yeah we just we had an eye opening experience yesterday as we know and it’s not cannabis it’s the other stuff the math the threat no the heroin the the [ __ ] and it turned out the brand new lady and so so the runner took her to the store yesterday or the day before the first thing he said is I sell drugs the runner oh and I was like oh no he’s done done done and I mean I knew he dabbled a little bit but I didn’t know the depth and here’s this little bitty town and I’m looking at this going why aren’t more people falling over dead but you know I I I can’t we we don’t do that right you know off the camera I I asked them all straight out do you use Cs and they’re like this I got all nervous I said look I understand in your AG it’s what you prefer to alcohol or anything else yeah I said you got to bring a pen and you don’t share fre because you know just the yeah yeah yeah that’s nice because well it doesn’t smell right and it it isn’t legal in here but I don’t want to get in the way of what keeps them level while we’re swimming in a world that used to probably be kind of like a dirty River but it’s like a Cess poool now yeah I I want them comfortable and and and so I mean I am just that open yeah but I have to be careful with sharing that but I can just share it with them and so I don’t have any issues little pens they take a trip to ELO they go to the Indian colony where they get their their little cartridges everything is good nobody’s just whacked out they’re just they’re just in a state that they prefer at certain times of the day yeah yeah have you had issues with other drugs have you had any issues uh in the early 21st century um that meth really I really dislike that meth I it’s just bad [ __ ] I can’t even understand why somebody would want to do something to shorten their life yeah that doesn’t make any sense to me but we don’t have any of that yeah okay was it obvious when that started happening you’re like okay she’s [ __ ] whacked out it took me a minute that’s what I figured yeah I I did I wasn’t around that sure so it it I don’t want be around it right I don’t want to be around people that are poisoning themselves so you know I I like to be open but I have to be realistic on camera about certain things you can because that’s that it’s a whole different element talking about cannabis and the legalities and and what it’s good for and all of that in a business that’s dealing with um sexual services that’s all they need oh yeah sex and drugs right yeah it would just it would wipe us off M and I think that’s why like you know we’re mindful not to Cole’s mindful not to portray this as like you know the party atmosphere like you were talking about it’s just like yeah the girls will just they’re all Tipsy they all come up and hang all over you and you know that’s the BR Full Experience because yeah like you said all people need is another excuse to hate this place judge it right yeah so you know the and they’re all different ages M and and they I’m going to say they’re all doing it for a reason for the real heart event whether it’s getting on top of the game setting themselves up while they still have plenty of days in front of them whether they have a child whether if they have have a carrot that’s ill I mean they’ve all got their reasons yeah you know oh hi how are you good no we were just Ying it’s now I who came to the door oh I gotta get that money for for Noah let me get that money money where check though I heard that delete want you don’t want I have deleted it from every from the face of the earth is that but I did not I just didn’t see you today right okay um they are podcasting some of excuse me excuse me ladies and so I went to the Bunny Ranch right still going anyway your last lot of [Music] iny [Music] got [Music] [Music] [Music] last [Music] so I went to the Bunny Ranch right yes and I picked a girl uh for the purposes of this product project I wasn’t like purchasing sex anyways I picked a girl and I sat down at the bar and the bartender said I’m just curious what you think of this story too the bartender said what would you like and I said uh but light or something and he’s like all right $6 and I’m like cool so I’m talking to this girl asking her like how long she’s worked here and everything and I hear him out of the side of my eye going hey chief I said $12 and I was like it’s like I mean I’ll pay you but I thought you just sent six you know because I gave him six and he’s like yeah six for you 12 for the round and I was like oh I’m buying her a drink and he’s like yeah and I was like okay like I was but I was like I just felt like that’s something you should like ask exactly and that’s not that I wouldn’t have said yes I I was just like for him to like treat me like an [ __ ] I was like bro I I always asked our guess did you want to buy the lady a drink and she he’s going to buy me a drink I say yes did you want to buy the lady a drink and I’ll shake my head I’m say yes but ask first sure instead of just assuming yeah yeah so it’s interesting you know we they charge like 7th or a year a lady’s drink will start at 13 but we do that because we ar a bar right people AR going to sit and drink drink after drink after drink and the other thing is is the people that have bars in town have to get shoes on their children too we don’t need the local dreamers right so it it just works all the way around nobody gou everybody’s treated with respect they’re ass because maybe they don’t and that’s okay too maybe they’re saving all their money for yeah you know what’s funny is after it all cuz I spoke to the girl and again I was not there to purchase sex I was more there to to interview the women and I I just jokingly said because I could tell she was kind of frustrated with me that I wasn’t going to spend money with her so I I jokingly said oh haha wasn’t that funny that I didn’t realize I was buying you a drink and she goes yeah you should buy a woman a drink I’m like I don’t disagree with that just didn’t know that like all of a sudden you were on the defens a good way to me sitting at a brro all of a sudden you’re on the defensive and she’s going to ask you for probably 1,200 bucks yeah you’re going to be all over that it’s amazing you named the exact brush she asked for oh just a guess that’s why my TOS are always perfect because I don’t just let anybody I don’t let anybody go Zoom clip 196 Zoom clip 196 so Porsha thank you for sitting down with me this is uh this is exciting uh do you want to go ahead and just introduce yourself uh for folks that are listening right now my name is pora and I am the house manager at Bellis Hender Ranch very awesome and um for folks that haven’t been paying attention to the rest of this episode Bella AI under Ranch is a brothel in uh Nevada which is very cool very cool stuff so um well you were mentioning to me before we got on air that you haven’t always been what did you say your title was you haven’t always been this title before you were I was a corisan for many years yeah I actually started at this house oh probably about 30 some years ago you started at this house I did I worked here for several years and I was very successful um and then I wanted to try some other houses with f and I always end up coming back here yeah yeah there’s a little bit more structure um it’s not a free-for-all you know drunken parties and stuff where a lot of other houses that I worked at are so uh stay focused on your paper when you’re working here yeah what were if you don’t mind what were some of the houses that you work worked at were they by chance in the the Hoff brothel or were they different brothel um no I worked at the Sage Brush I worked at at Seuss fantasy club in Elco the Wildcat and Mina uh the Stardust and elely um the Dov tail in Carlin the Calico in Battle Mountain wow yeah I kind of went kind of went you know checked them all out are you from Nevada no I’m from Minnesota really okay so how did you find yourself in Nevada doing sex work well I was doing escort services and then I went to work at a house in Montana and I met a couple girls who worked in the houses out here and they told me about them and so I made a phone call and was lucky enough to get a a room and then I just I stayed I would work three weeks here and go on vacation for three weeks and come back for several years yeah was the house in man Montana legal or was that no illegal but that’s so interesting to hear I mean I assumed there were because so we I started the show covering the Cannabis industry because I smoke a lot of pot right my friend hey right here right here well um you know I always figured that there had to be something similar to like a house in the illicit Market because of course that’s how we’ve been buying weed for years right before it was legal right we got it from a guy so I figured the same thing that’s interesting so there was like was it like this where you came up to a house rang a bell and there was a lineup or no it was basically you ring a bell and um you come in and you might have a couple girls to choose from um it’s totally different uh in in an illegal house and one of the reasons why I decided to come to Nevada was because I have a a good record and I never wanted to have any prostitution charges or soliciting or pandering or any kind of charges on my record yeah because throughout the years when I’ve taken a break from you know working as a cortison I had a square job and so you know you don’t want to have the prostitution charges or any kind of other charges on your record because they do look at stuff now so that’s kind of what turned me away from any kind of illegal houses or escorting you know once I found I could be legal and safe that was it I never turned back yeah that’s what we hear with most girls in fact I was just talking to a girl out at the bar and she said you know she was you know in the illicit market for a while and when she heard about this safe legal option well she thought why why not hide you know get out of the Shadows come above board and do this professionally right yeah it’s it’s just very interesting do you think houses like that are still prevalent Across America with it being illegal everywhere except here oh yeah they’re going to be everywhere it’s just you know a lot of the girls don’t stay long at houses like that because it’s dangerous you know and you I remember running into some catchy characters and you know you can’t count on the house to protect you because it’s an illegal house yeah so there you know you’re not is that important you know what I mean yeah yeah there’s the Bell um I’m curious you know you bring up security what is security here is it you with like a can of bear spray or what well the whole house is uh has cameras sure and we are in an area that has it’s like a Hub where we have a sheriff’s department we have Highway Patrol you know so there’s a lot of police activity around this area because it’s easy for them to get to a lot of different places the four corners of you know Northeastern Nevada so we really because we have such a long road to come down we don’t really have problems with anything um you know they have to ring a bell to come in and then you know I mean I’m only a button away from calling the police you know so but we don’t really have any problems most of the people because they’re coming to our house and it’s a legal house they’re on their best behavior right and because we don’t uh we’re not a bar I mean we have a bar and it’s okay for people to have a few drinks but we don’t encourage hanging at the bar and for the ladies there’s a two drink per shift uh maximum so they’re not here they’re here to make money they’re not here to party and get drunk and they can do that when they go home yeah hey how’s it going L’s ready ladi’s ready you can go through yep you’re good here where’s the phone I think it’s right there I’m so sorry no you’re okay you’re okay he’s waiting for you go ahead okay KS come come back to the make make good choices no back to the kitchen door okay no that’s funny that’s funny well um what’s it like being a bartender at a brothel sorry you’re not just a bartender but right um well my job is to kind of disarm our guests when they come in a lot of times they’re nervous they’re have a little bit of anxiety uh maybe this is their first time in a brothel or maybe it’s their first time here so I’m the very first face they see so before I open that door I put on a big old smile and I open that door welcome to Bellas I want them to feel so welcome because so many places and I’ve worked in a lot of them that is not how they answer the door yeah yeah sorry no it’s okay hey Bella if you want to come through it’s good you’re good I wanted you to meet my my better oh better H nice to meet you nice to meet you Justin hi J nice to meeting you and this is guy that keeps everything running yeah I was and hardly yells she was telling us about the freaking winter conditions you saved them from let’s keep that going let’s get in the winner right right here we come all right so we’re going let you do your thing you guys are gold okay and then I’ll shoot um I got a for shower tomorrow two a 10 but we’ll see maybe Lance can help me my job here a little bit early as soon got s Direction yeah so that means next time we’re coming out we’re riding horses with be right no I only have one oh all right sorry you got to bring and she’s a one Rider horse oh one of those yeah she’s one of those yeah well we’ve had her since she was 3 weeks old okay that’s cute so Lance and our son bottle for her and she stayed so now she’s 12 and definitely mine yeah so okay you guys carry on I’m G unlock this store for the gas and then we’ll go down the back hole to goass so we don’t interrupt cool it’s okay hey nice to meet you yeah take care well um it’s been fascinating to see the inner workings of a brothel it’s a lot more normal than um I considered it’s not like uh somebody’s coming in like hey the the dildos are they need charged okay like the the vibrators they’re out of battery you know like I figured there’d be things like that yeah now it’s a little bit more classy here you know these are professional ladies of pleasure and you know sometimes behind the scenes we might be a little you know sure but we try to be ladies in front of our guests whether they’re a gentleman or not we you know it’s we strive for greatness yeah and I was gonna say that’s every job right we all have our little private you know dialogue I did make the joke to Cole um that I was wondering if the girls would think it was funny or not to use like a hiachi wand as the microphone well then they’d have to bend over and talk that’s funny that is funny yeah so um what are what are some of the changes you’ve seen over you you mentioned you’ve been in the sex industry for some time I’m just curious have there any been changes over the years and if so what do you feel they’ve they’ve been I think there are quite a few changes um we’re getting a lot more couples we’re getting a lot more ladies looking for ladies um and you know we’re here to accommodate them you know whatever type of fantasy party that they’re looking for if we we don’t have it listed underneath their profile we’ll we’ll create it yeah you know but it’s a lot more open it seems like you know where it was everything was kind of quiet and like couples would come in and they’d feel really nervous where now it’s like de all do couples absolutely come on in you know yeah whatever whatever’s on your mind you know we’ll figure it out if we can get it done and how much it’s going to cost you that’s awesome it’s a great night here at Bellis H Ander Ranch yes yes oh yes the spray okay I got you I got you okay okay I got you get better right bye it’s our daytime bartender we have a girl coming in tonight and we want to make sure everything is perfect in her room Fanny does the cleaning of the rooms and I she does the fine cleaning like the baseboards and the ceiling fans and all that kind of stuff and uh you know we want the rooms to be Immaculate when the girls come in because first impressions are everything and then they can see how they need to leave it yeah true true that’s what all said well I’m curious I’ve been trying to ask each you know person this and it’s hard to preface this question I’ve been having trouble I need to get better about how to preface this question but I wanted to be able to take on some criticisms I know that there are people watching on watching this right now and it seems like the conclusion they always draw is that none of these women chose to be here and in fact it seems like it’s always especially in America presented through this lens that women are always victims right and they could never ever possibly choose to be here that you know something must have happened in their past or you know something must have gone wrong right can you take on that uh criticism being somebody who not only worked in the industry also has worked with a lot of women you know in also in the industry I think um you know working as a professional cortison it’s it is definitely a choice you know we don’t take prisoners we don’t keep anybody here we’re here to help uplift the women that do come to us help to teach them how to negotiate how to make money how to be smart with their money Bella is very much Pro uh invest in yourself invest in your future don’t just come and make money and just go blowing it like Fanny and I both talk about how we tell the girls all the time save your money we blew a lot hundreds of thousands of dollars doing a whole lot of nothing you know I mean granted we’ both her and I both purchased homes and we’ve nice vehicles and you know we both did a lot of traveling but we could have been set up a lot better had we been a little bit wiser so you know it’s just it’s the old goat tell the young goat you know save your money yeah yeah you’ll be old like me one day you want to be able to be comfortable you know yeah everybody’s just scared about this this girl like you say you don’t take prisoners but everybody’s scared of this girl that has just I don’t know something happened and and she’s out here because she just can’t do any of is that even like a true thing if you never experienced not really I mean I’ve been in the business a long long time and most of the ladies uh they’re either working to pay for college to support their families um and again myself personally I enjoy the hell out of sex and I like a Ry and I always say God I’m like a guy you know I like to savor different flavor you know and so this was like perfect for me because you get to you know you can you have the right to refuse service to anyone so if you don’t like somebody you don’t have to take care of them you can say you know I’m not a good match for you let me find somebody else who might be or like I tell the ladies if you don’t like someone your prices go way up if they can get if they can pay that price you can get over not liking this person for however long it’s going to take yeah you know you think about you know house payment truck payment you know you know it’s easy to to like somebody if they’re paying you well you know and in all the houses you’ve worked at including this one have you noticed uh much of a problem with like drug usage every house except for this one really every single house yeah I’ve heard of that’s that’s why it’s a little scary because you know especially because it’s male-owned and they don’t they really don’t they’re not able to control the the women and there’s a lot of drugs there’s a lot of alcoholism and you know when people are up for days on on and you know sometimes they get angry and fights break out and things like that and our ladies don’t have to worry about that this is a drama-free house you know if there’s a problem we’re going to get to the bottom of it and we’re going to move on you know and if you can’t fit in if you can’t you don’t have to like anybody but you need to be respectful and if you can’t be respectful to your fellow cooworker then you’re not going to be here for very long yeah you know we’re here to make money we’re not here to make friends you know we want the girls to be successful so that they’ll come back but if they’re drama or they’re uh you know have any kind of violent tendencies or anything like that we’re they’re not going to come back and a matter of fact they may be asked to Lo to leave early yeah you know because we just we just don’t accept that yeah yeah I I only ask that because I’ve heard of um other houses yeah having issues with with drugs I’ve even somebody on my podcast told a story she worked at Abel where there was an overdose you know and things like that can be very traumatic to the women we keep our can in the bar just in case but we don’t have a drug abuse now granted the ladies are allowed to smoke cannabis it’s legal but they still have to go outside here okay we don’t allow it in the house um having alcohol two drinks per shift per bartender shift this is we are not here to get drunk and I’m not here to babysit any drunks I’ve been sober for 11 years and that’s the last thing I want to do is have to take care of a drunk so we they don’t the alcohol is not readily available can they buy it and bring it in their room sure do they I’m sure they do but as long as they’re conducting themselves professionally you know and they’re not slurring their words or you know then there’s no reason for me to check their room or monitor them you know so cuz girls are going to do what they’re going to do yeah yeah you know we just try to we have guidelines and we want them to follow them and if they don’t then there’s always another beautiful lady waking waiting to take their place yeah and look I know that you can’t convince everybody and I I know that because I talk about you know drug legalization and stuff which is a pretty charged topic this can also become pretty charged for people and again I know you can’t convince everybody but if there was somebody in here right now and they’re saying like how would you what is your pitch how do you convince somebody that seems to be completely opposed to this if you felt the need to how how would you felt the need to to to pitch this like uh as a uh thing that is okay you know um should be allowed to go on well men have needs they’re always going to be looking for a way to fulfill those needs here it’s the the girls are clean they go to the doctor they’re safe um you know since he enacted the condom law we always the girls always use protection because they’re not only protecting theirselves or their guest but any other guest that they may have contact with and perhaps that guest may be married or in a relationship we need to protect those folks too so it’s uh you know we that’s why we like to keep everybody not you know we don’t allow them to get drunk because when people are drunk they make mistakes you know and we can’t have that yeah yeah and I was curious I meant to ask Bella oh I meant to ask Bella um does the doctor come on site here or do they go visit the doctor for test sir well there’s been occasions where they go to the doctor or we have someone come here um it just it just depends right right now we have somebody who comes here and they do the blood cultures um but it can change at any given moment because you know if that person’s not available the girls still need to get their paperwork because the sheriff’s come in periodically and they check our box to make sure that the girls all have their business cards their blood and cultures done and that they’re legal to work oh yeah they come in they come in at least once a week and we never know when they’re going to come which is fine I mean matter you do the paperwork yeah we’re on board making sure every our ducks are in a row yeah you know so when they come in they just go through it all and make sure everything’s current and and then they leave so very cool very cool well I want to give Justin you an opportunity to ask some questions just in case you had any that came up um uh one of the things I wanted to ask uh before we before I step out of this seat was like do you think there would be anything that would need to change my go my ideal like ideally sex work would be decriminalized Nationwide not just legal in Nevada right what do you think needs to happen in order to make that a reality I know that’s a big question you know I don’t know what needs to happen but I think it definitely needs to be decriminalized and I think that they need to follow the motto of Nevada with the legalization and uh you know where the girls have to go to the doctor they have to have a business license and and Sheriff’s card if you do all those things you’re going to weed out all I don’t want to call them undesirables because they’re not undesirable just it will weed out all the problems you know um is it still going to go on illegally absolutely it you know just like anything but I think if if it’s uh you know where they where they have to work in a illegal brothel rather than Street work or whatever I think that would be you know healthwise for the the communities for the guests for the girls just make a huge difference if they just followed our followed our uh model you know what how we do things how we run things yeah yeah well I want to thank you Porsche for sitting with me Justine would you like to hop in and talk to Porsche cool Little Women on [Laughter] talk L ladies so first question laser shav or wax just kidding no I’m just curious so something that we have heard um a lot from Dennis Hoff when he was alive he would always tell the girls I’ve got a thousand girls a day emailing me who want to come work here so I’m just curious what’s the hiring process like how how do these girls end up here well we refer them to our website and have them fill out an application and submit some photos and then I speak to them on the phone and just you know try to find out any uh history of you know have they worked anywhere else what type of work have they done and just more or less to get a feel for their personality also um because here it’s really kind of laid-back but it’s very transparent you know the girls are very real and you know it’s not like phony kind of stuff and that’s the kind of people that we want yeah you know so do you I mean looks wise for the girls do you try I would assume that you go for a variety of different ethnicities different backgrounds um you know everywhere from like the kind of supermodel look to the girl next door kind of thing um do you find that there’s like a a certain look that is more successful here or does it just kind of it’s kind of a crapshoot it’s you know all of the ladies do well and you know it’s not really you you know you might think oh this girl might not make money but then she’s one of your biggest Bookers personality is everything and once they receive service from you great service goes a long way because guys will tell their friends and word of mouth is still huge guys will tell their friends what a great time they had yeah and I mean as far as looks go yeah you want to be pretty however I’ve seen some girls in this industry that I didn’t think were very attractive but it’s not my job to determine how attractive they are it’s up to the men and I’ve watched girls that I thought were unattractive make lots of money yeah um myself when I was a working girl I definitely wasn’t the the prettiest girl by far but I had a great personality and I was a little bit more rubenesque I always have been and I would get guys because of my personality and my gift to gab and once they like you it’s a lot easier for them to loosen up the pocketbook and spend time with you because they know you’re a working girl and you’re probably going to give good service right so looks aren’t as important as you know as far as like your body shape or how pretty your face is or you know you can tell a guy when they when they come in and they look they’ll be like her right there yep something about her you know caught his eye yeah and we also encourage our guests to you know once you choose a lady and you go on a no obligation to her and you discuss services and prices if you can’t come to an agreement with this young lady you can talk to a different lady they’re all different prices they’re all independent contractors so you know if it’s just the money thing a lot of times a guy doesn’t really care what the girl looks like because he knows that she’s obviously working here for a reason she knows what she’s doing yeah you know do you have you experienced um like certain guys that come in here that the girls get like really excited to get in lineup for like maybe somebody who’s a big spender or somebody who’s like particularly nice or or are they kind of neutral towards everybody well I would say they’re more neutral um because you never know there’s a lot of gentlemen that come in that it’s a different girl every time they come they like the variety they want to try the new girl they want to try a different girl they want to try an Asian girl or a black girl or you know a redhead or a blonde or whatever you know they want to try different things and so we provide you know different different types of ladies yeah um since you’ve been in the industry for so long are you do you have kind of that like sixth sense of like some guy walks in and you’re like oh I bet he’s in De feat or like oh I bet that guy like he’s going to want a golden shower or he’s he’s going to want a book with happy you know do you are you surprise me they always surprise me if I have a preconceived notion of what I think they might want and then they turn it all over totally around isn’t that an exciting thing about this business and I love my job because I get to meet people from all over the country I’m not just a you know the bartender mhm you know we have different people every day all day long coming in yeah so I get to kind of travel around and learn a little bit about everybody and you know it’s it’s fun yeah and then to watch these ladies to you know encourage them to spend time with our girls and I you know I tell them and this is a true statement right now we have the most beautiful girls with the best personalities and they give great service so whichever one cuz they’ll ask me what do I which one should I pick whichever one you pick is going to show you a good time and I can feel confident in that where years ago I wasn’t so sure about a few of them you know CU some people just it just wasn’t what they wanted to really do or be here for yeah yeah it’s a beautiful night at bassi and Ranch how can I help you it is Porsha how can I help you yes I personally take a minute you wanted to thank me well I appreciate that well no you served us well and and I just want you to know that I appreciate that well I appreciate the fact that you took the time out of your schedule to call and let me know and you just made my night I enjoyed your visit here I thought you were amazing and I’m so glad that you took Arya on an outdate and she had a lot of fun and uh you know it’s just it was it was a good time all around well good I’m glad to hear that and uh I hope you have a wonderful night and uh keep up the good work well thank you so much we’ll talk to you soon okay okay all right bye that was sweet absolutely all right well I just have one last question for you it’s kind of a two-parter okay um kind of on the dark side but what does it take to get a lifetime ban from a brothel and have you ever had to do it I don’t think anybody’s ever well I can’t say nobody’s been banned there has been a few people um by being disrespectful to the ladies um if you are disrespectful to the lady and it’s not necessar we don’t really have any physical things but just verbally abusive to the girl you’re not welcome back yeah we don’t they don’t need that they work hard they put up with a lot of difficult people and a lot of amazing people but the minute you start to talk down or disrespect the lady you’re never coming back here we don’t need your business absolutely so ladies if you’re thinking about getting into the industry hit up Bellas because obviously you are very protected and safety is the top priority and you’re not going to get talked down to no not going to be tolerated I tell the ladies all the time even if you’re wrong I’m on your side tell me the truth yeah tell me the 100% truth and we would go from there yep so that’s a girls girl we love a girls girl well thank you for your time portion thanks for letting me sit in and ask you some questions yeah no problem I appreciate it cool all right is it 420 during Justine’s conversation with Porsche I stepped out for a smoke and a live stream on Instagram that turned into an impromptu tour of the aenda here it is now enjoy wait all right folks it’s official I am currently at a brothel no I am not here to procure sex that is not what I’m here to do I’m here to interview the working girls the prostitutes they’re licensed they’re legal I met Bella’s aenda 24 hours you can get all the girls you want we’re uh interviewing people funny enough you know people talk in the Cannabis industry about license limitations and how people uh need to have the businesses far away from each other and [ __ ] look at this here’s a brothel there’s another brothel so you guys want to go see the inside [ __ ] it I’ll just throw this joint I don’t give a [ __ ] let’s go in the broth Lo I’ll go in the back door mind you this is not an entrance but we’re going let’s check out the brothel shall we have you guys ever seen the inside of a brothel Cowboy Cole is here to show you so here’s the kitchen I’m a little cold here so I’m [Music] shaking [Music] I don’t know where the [ __ ] I put my beer at yes I’m in Nevada I am in the Silver State Nevada and this is a brothel we come here get [ __ ] drink some beer you know do crazy [ __ ] this is the woman I’ve been interviewing she is the owner of this here brothel her name is Bella and uh yeah as you guys know I don’t usually dress like this but Cowboy Cole he’s uh in Full full effect right now there’s Bella stay tuned for my interviews with her whoops turn that back on I don’t know where the [ __ ] I left my beer at but here’s the brothel or here’s the bar in the brothel this is where you’d get a lineup so you’d come in here and women would line up for you right here you could sit right here and you could pick right so sit right here with my cowboy boots I want you they take my hand right they take me over here into this little room this is the conversation room and this is where we talk about what we going to do right um kind of interesting uh right over here is where they do what’s called a dick check um so let’s take a look here yeah so they got like wipes uh [ __ ] a sink and stuff so they’ll you know you’ll lower your pants show them your your stuff and uh then you get to pick a room right now some of these women it’s their own room so I’m going to be kind of quiet here I don’t want to wake anybody up but you can see like here’s a VIP room let’s take a look in here so you got a [ __ ] hot tub how can I get a hot tub I’m sure that water is disgusting uh you got mirrors everywhere so you can see you know you can get a good look while you’re you know having a good time here I am Cowboy Cole belt buckle and all I don’t probably shouldn’t be laying on that bed it’s probably some things that have happened on that bed but I will say one of the questions that I had was what does a brothel smell like uh not as it doesn’t I mean it just smells nice you know no bad smells I haven’t smelled any bad smells I was totally concerned there were going to be bad smells no bad smells uh so far so um they’ve actually got a gym their gym is right here so they can go in here and you know like work out work it oh yeah I better go [ __ ] I better go turn that light off if I didn’t check this out turn these lights down turn them off whatever yeah so the ladies they’re their rooms go all the way down here there’s a few like VIP rooms uh BDSM stuff like that you know um let’s you know take a look oh massage room get a happy ending you know so many gems from this video yeah I’ll have to uh have to publish it here’s the exit I don’t know how you’re supposed to I guess guess she just kicked this down she like [ __ ] boom get out of there right let’s uh and I’m kind of you know I’m just walking around right now I don’t know if I’m allowed to do this or not I mean I think I am here we are you see this [ __ ] belt buckle spent good money on that belt buckle his camera’s everywhere as you can see [Music] or You’ you’d put your money in there I guess and then the house would split it I don’t know exactly here’s the woman that I interviewed daella among other people of course and some spiritual stuff Crystal Tree you know stuff like that um yeah this has been a fascinating experience to talk to legal sex workers a Madam a person that owns a brothel it’s kind of creepy looking huh but apparently this person you give her money for like Vibes or something like that I don’t know makes sense right it’s for the vibes I wonder if this video is allowed to be on Instagram with all the tits that I’m showing tits I should be quiet down here there’s probably girls sleeping the lights are low anyways I hope you enjoyed this live tour of a brothel um I don’t know if I’m gonna keep this video up I don’t like keeping live videos up because they’re just off the cuff and stuff and I say say stupid things that I end up regretting later but I’m out of brothel stay tuned for this content it’s going to be posted on my new show the Cole memo um very exciting stuff stay tuned folks to conclude this episode I’m excited to share with you the footage that I captured during my second day at Bellis aenda it’s Cole Preston I’m back here at Bella’s aenda it’s a licensed brothel in the state of Nevada let’s go inside at ring your hot so basically when you approach as some of you might know already you just ring the bell and wait for an answer now since we’re recording right now and they’re expecting us we’re probably not going to get a lineup but if if you were just showing up here like I am now minus the cameras and such they would have a lineup for you so hey how’s it going oh hi how are you I’m back yeah so here is the bar in the brothel get yourself a drink before you have a good time with the ladies once again this is Bella’s aenda as you can see or maybe hear I mean to say they’ve always got nice music playing inside and outside it’s good vibes all the way around uh usually like I say if if it were you coming in uh you’d might take a seat over here and just about where the cameras at there would be a line of women in front of me and I could choose one two three whatever my budget can afford and uh from there you’ll go back over here to the conversation room which we’re not going to go in right now um but you go into the conversation room you uh negotiate what you’d like to do in your party and uh agree on a price pay up and from there you can have a good time so you got to have a dude oh you got to have it on display [Music] probably our little chin now this guy as you can see says expires like six I’ll put it down like this okay do you mind if I take a picture no please do and then you guys haven’t gotten pictures to um Jeremy yet not yet Vice is going to need pictures okay so and a brought my hat in case we want with hat right yes now this is that escort license I petitioned for so you see the price on this one and when I pish petition for this I said well how much is it going to cost and they said I think it was $30 or $35 and I like does anybody have a credit card that could borrow right that’s funny over here no problem this mean A party’s done sa hello again this is May oh this is May sorry hi May nice to meet you nice to meet you so as you can see the current but you know it here’s kind of a anything in Wells okay it expires yeah on the 30th right by the time you get your new license it’s like towards the end of July MH which means your liquor suppliers won’t sell to you right until they see that mhm and it’s like every year year every single year just saying to the to the Distributors who want it by this date they not going to get it please call the city of Wells they’ll explain they’ll usually go 15 days and so you work to order what you need because you won’t be able to order again until August so it’s like really this town is so big that you can’t get this on time MH that’s insane yes just another hoop you got to jump through right and but I smile you know I like I don’t walk in their shoes so I don’t know how tough it is you know I don’t know very much do I sure it’s not it’s not super dissimilar from the old medical cannabis program that we had in Illinois where you would send in on your paperwork they would you a card but it would still be like another month after they issued it before you even received it by bye baby see you by see you next time that AO okay now this this is an old one by the way uh but I’m all current but this is the other license that I have to have okay but remember this says 19 and for whatever reason I didn’t bring a new one in yeah but so this guy here cost $650 or something wow or might be 800 now so the idea is they you know or then you got the health and you got you know but here’s the since you since you Ser do you have like food or something is that way we don’t do that it’s just the B oh I see I see all right so this is just the Ridiculousness of a big brother all right so we’ve got a three compartment section right back here and the health department decides they got to put a hand sink in so what it really is is probably personal all right but you have to have it yeah gonna unlock that door and they just keep doing the silliest stuff they never leave the bar ever so it doesn’t matter what’s down the hall they don’t go wow and then they’re kind of afraid to go anyway so it’s right here yeah yeah so I just look at him go okay here’s the paper I am I am never going to say word sure you know our cleanliness is Next to Godliness CU I learned that from my my uh first teacher CU I actually grew up in like started school in a one room Schoolhouse yeah okay and then it went to two rooms when they built a new building but Mrs happy I’m sure was Nazi because we learned how to pledge allegiance to the flag like this pledge allegiance oh no that’s the way they used to do it yeah you know so we learned how to do that right yeah and then um she always said that cleanliness was Next to Godliness and handwriting came second she was a stickler yeah you know like oh my God this is just like a fun stories of a little girl so but what can I move for you well I thought we could get some pictures you said you have your hat I think it’d be cool to get some pictures just of you maybe some of me and you um and then um I might get just some footage of you walking up to the brothel I know I got some footage of you driving the other day but I’m just going to see which looks better you know you walking driving with your hat on probably I think it could look really cool and um then just before we go I thought I might ask if Sabrina or Taylor still want to do a quick interview and if not that’s okay we can hit the road because I know Sabrina just it looks like she just got done with a party so she did she did and uh yeah I’m really I want to say this because it’s really it’s a big deal for me for you to make this trip all the way out here and and I’m pretty good and blowing you know the Horn of Bellas and saying you just have no idea this is it’s an amazing thing but there’s really no way to put it into words and then sort of watch the two of you go whoa this we weren’t expecting this Go’s mouth has been going like this but you just you don’t know until you like step into it and one of these things with Nick Thompson I said how how does a society understand something they’ve never experiened right or see I said it’s it’s impossible words are words and they’re working in their mind to say well well I think she means this from my past experiences of what I think she means and it’s like apples and O it’s so it’s really kind of un uh comprehendable yeah you know and you know and she asked me about you know being a a great Madam and I said you have to be compassionate but you also have to be consistent yeah yeah okay it’s like here’s the direction so you know when I when I’m talking to them you know and I say look first of all you have to have burning Dr MH and then you have to have the the Fai in yourself to know that you’ll never quit yeah and so I always point to Chimney Rock which you stood behind a couple times now yeah and I said that’s where I’m going and I said the can you gra my mic you know the goal is never easy yeah because no one’s walked it before the way you’re here to walk it yes right yeah and you know you know thank you at one point I actually did the race to the angel and it took me like 4 hours and 12 minutes the the race to the what to the angel to the angel Lake right and it left right over here from the fire department it was 10.2 miles I did it in 4 hours and 12 minutes and I was fourth okay and that was all age groups I was fourth no I was a power walker okay but the power walking division running uh biking were the three divisions right and you’re all alone going up that road and it isn’t for the Fain of heart because there’s one of these one right that’s it everything else is that way and so it’s that’s really the parallel of my life I am not going to quit period so you know when when I was talking with um the Bice I said I am never talking about how to solve the illegal prostitution um puzzle I said all I’m saying is this particular model tried tested works and the other stuff you can’t do anything about yet but you can Institute this for the people looking for it on both sides the let’s call it the sellers and the buyers so um I’m gonna I’m Gonna Keep really keep that in mind that the other is too big yeah you know there’s too many people that don’t want to pay tax yeah yeah or be for and all right or you are with all these hoops you’ve had yes yes every year every year so I’m you know I’m excited for you know that your however big yours turns out to be because I know you you’re different from other people well I’m not just going to do 30 minutes because I don’t want anybody to get bored yeah I’m I’m gonna like shoot them right between the eyes with all the facts and we’ll see what they do with it yes yeah and and that’s a really good idea if they turn it off okay yeah if they don’t H you know what I was telling Justine on our way up here is that this opportunity is like I always looked on YouTube to try to see what we’re talking about and show what see what you’ve shown us for lack of better words and I just have never been able to find it so this is my opportunity to make that so that if somebody else wants to learn about this in the future they can look online and like you say Get the facts get a real look at what’s actually going on here not sometimes without context quick looks or you know the the TV shows back in the day they don’t do it justice you know no they don’t uh and they want to dramatize it and there’s a difference between making something look like a movie uh of um let’s say uh sex and violence sex and drugs sex and whatever you sorry drama you know making it making it uh appear something it’s not and of course there’s there’s times in here when when it’s um rather quiet but that’s part of the reality of are you ready when the doorbell rings you know and you know one of the the great ways to um let me turn this no problem this is big and tall I was gonna say this is a song we usually turn up at the bar I know we do but uh where was I I forgot big and tall were loud so oh so all right so here’s a great analogy right let’s say you’re a part of an NH Team all right and you have to practice taking the car apart and putting it back together and I think they have 40 minutes now or 45 minutes okay they have to practice that because in between races that’s what you get what are you after you’re going to do it four times walk away with the Wall-E we have to do the same thing you know we have to practice are we ready instead of um sort of laying down on the job and and to me that’s a that’s something that’s on the extra mile that’s stuff that people won’t do they won’t want to be their very best every single second yeah because it’s like work what if nobody shows up up what if this happens what if that who cares yeah aren’t you ready right yeah so I love that part hell yeah that’s how I felt on this trip here yeah what it this happen but that who cares let’s just go and yeah she willing I am oh I’m willing yes okay so I need to get my hat yeah let’s get your hat and let’s uh get some cool shots okay so do that in the call sweet sounds good I I lost there’s some back here behind the bar I don’t know if they’re yours back there you’ll notice that the camera kept recording after I powered down my equipment keep that in mind so what did you just see so there is a new girl in the house and um so they were getting her set up with her supplies that she needs and so um condoms were a dollar each and they have different sizes and so she gathered a variety of condoms in different sizes she just wanted $10 worth and then the next step was to collect her roomy whenever she was ready so she just collected her condoms and went on her way um I also was shown that if you want to come to the brothel and perform oral sex on the ladies there are special um latex panties that they wear that are very thin latex almost like condom material um that they wear so that you can perform oral sets on them without them risking getting CIS or you know whatever else you can get from Sal so pretty interesting I thought that there was literally like like a dental dam from the dental clinic and they just had to like hold it in place the whole time so um technology has come a long way I guess for the sex industry great for them love that for as previously mentioned the camera continued to record after I had powered down my equipment upon review it seems that my camera captured some of the conversation Justine described here is the footage from that discussion as captured by my camera sounds good I keep I lost things there’s some back here behind the bar I don’t know if they’re yours [Music] at least from now on okay listen for1 okay we this size okay you have this those days okay what you mean you understand what you oh what do you mean this is big days I have you are you sure okay this is for okay I think he’s already for you okay just a moment do you have yes I have okay do you know you need more of this this this is Miss me yeah this is for the people from this is americ men okay yes she okay okay okay let me see this is small four more four more Med medium size so you sure you have okay I I thought the okay okay I you want to pay me now or you want me to put in a book and and then when you get I take it out you good I need to go to the stor when I I go to the store and I bring you the four times okay thank you no I to okay okay thank you than okay okay this has been recording for so I hope you know that I don’t always dress like this not that you really care but oh I’m only dressed like this for Nevada okay that makes sense that’s fair enough yeah yeah so uh for folks that are tuning in right now uh please please introduce yourself hi I’m Sabrina sweetheart one of the ladies here at Bella and uh where can uh our audience find you online if uh they like what they see uh well of course Bella’s website bellas.us under Sabrina sweetheart if you are looking for me on other platforms I’m under javaya shines you can find me on Facebook Instagram and Snapchat and Twitter is under Sabrina sweets awesome awesome thank you so much well how long have uh how long have you been working here Sabrina well here at Bellis I think a year and a half yeah and uh how long have you been in Nevada a year and a half oh a year and a half okay cool have you uh done like work like this before Bellas like pornography or elicit work or um I have been in I would just rounded up to being in the sex industry yeah I have been in the sex industry um obviously since I turned 18 and I had a little background on it before sure sure we all like to have fun when you’re when we’re young right um so I’m just curious yeah how did you get introduced to sex work as you said it’s multifaceted that you know this is just one type of sex work but just generally speaking how did you get introduced to sex work um well from a young age I’ve always been interested I don’t know where it came from um but growing up you know my own mother you know was kind of working um and you know being around here I was kind of I wouldn’t say put on but of course you pay attention to those things sure yeah so did you I know that we we don’t have to get into specifics but are you from Nevada is that what you mean no I’m from Colorado oh okay cool colorful Colorado I love that state yeah that’s awesome if you can tell yeah I really love that state for what they’ uh for what they’ve done yeah well very cool so what has your experience been like um I mean obviously you’ve stuck with it so lucrative um I don’t really know what that means oh uh like a like a like getting a lot of money probably right oh well that and I actually really like the freedom that comes with it um me personally I do not want to be told how to dress I don’t want to be told what to say to other people um I like being My Own Boss my own scheduler and being able to work around what I want to do and that’s definitely a even bigger plus yeah that’s uh one of the things I can’t remember which sex worker at this point I’ve spoken to many but I something that’s stuck with me that it sounds like you just said was that they woke up one morning they’re like I’m doing this and and uh the part that really stuck with me was they said their alarm clock went off and they just snoozed it they said I’m not getting up for anybody else anymore but myself like I’ll get up when I want to yes yes that’s a big thing that and you know it’s it’s just hard nowadays everyone wants you to put on a happy face and pretend to deal with others nonsense and it’s just not me I can’t do it yeah well speaking of dealing with others nonsense uh I’m sure that I don’t mean to say nonsense but I’m sure you uh have to oblige a lot of uh interesting requests here at ell for example we saw the BDSM room yes yeah yes I you do I do I actually like it I mean it’s interesting not every day you going to be like oh today at work I pretended to be somebody’s mom like you know definitely interesting and keeps it fresh yeah absolutely and uh this question is totally uh for you what are some what are some of the parties you most uh you most enjoy so that if somebody’s thinking about contacting you right now they can make sure you have a great time I most definitely love couples I love the girlfriend experience I love going out on outdates of course um honestly I like it all and females don’t be afraid to come in because I do work with female clients very cool yeah that’s a question that I think most people have is this place only for males sounds like the answer is no no we take couples clients anybody else in between you could identify as a lamp and I’ll still take it that’s awesome that’s awesome well very cool very cool uh this is a question that that I always love to ask like is your family receptive to it your friends do have they had any thoughts um honestly I have a very small knit family little bit of family I do have um like is more so of like my biological mom um my siblings and my grandpa they know about it um I was always wild as a child and they’re just happy that I’m making it you know so I do have family that’s kind of I I guess estranged you know from you know my grandma outside and I know they found my platforms they’ve asked my mother about it and you know they all I guess some it up to that’s just that’s just her yeah and what would you say I like to to ask this question as well because people are tuning in uh not only because they might be supporters but there might be people that are rage watching this right like oh these these girls they couldn’t have chosen to do this it seems like it’s always based in this mentality that women are only victims they could never choose to EMP themselves can you take that on most definitely I do this out of pure Choice as long as I got to a [ __ ] I’m going to sell it why not like I just think a lot of hate can stem from certain reasonings one a lot of people can be jealous um I do know that it comes from to that we seem like we’re having fun we seem like you know it’s not all fun in games all the time but at the same time you know people do get the wrong ideas and I think a lot of it also comes from them believing others and what they grew up around yeah and how would you sometimes I don’t think these people are worth my time honestly like I’ve talked about cannabis legalization with people and it’s like if they don’t agree sometimes I’m just like whatever believe what you’re going to believe but if you were to try to convince somebody that doesn’t believe that this should be legal how would you how would you make that argument do you think well for starters prostitution was one of the first jobs for women sweetheart and let me tell you [ __ ] gets desperate yeah regardless of what goes on in the world say worst case scenario I’m still going to make it you want to know why I’m selling this [ __ ] and [ __ ] never goes out of style well said well said well um just to wrap up you know you made me think of a question that I feel like uh I haven’t asked the other girls and uh I wish I would have and maybe I’ll ask Bella this but yeah what are some of those other things that maybe people don’t consider I mean uh that that are involved in your job I’m sure just to start the list you have to make sure those condoms are stocked up right you have no idea like I have a whole tub back there like a tub yeah we we do have to keep up with our own supplies and it’s not just like oh she gets to sit and look prly like she does every day like no it it does take a lot it cost a lot um you want to invest it in yourself you know and whether that’s food and even being here you do have to buy your own food your own travel um your business licensing as well as the doctor every single week that doctor is a lot pricier Than People expect yeah yeah it’s very just a very interesting world you know uh how long do you fore yourself being an industry do you have like a an ideal Exit Plan or do you think it’s like something that you’re going to do for life I know I personally have met somebody like Air Force Amy who kind of like a lifer it seems um but I I’m always just curious like what’s your plan with us to be honest I have looked into doing what I originally wanted to do I actually wanted to go to school for merary science um by the way didn’t even make it through high school so but even going back I’m like I wouldn’t make as much money and if I did make at least the same amount per year look at all the downsides you know I work every single day I have to mine my peas and cues and you know I honestly unless for whatever reason I I blew up big even if I did I would still be in this industry one way or another very cool a few other things things that I just thought came to mind you have to do kind of like your own social media advertising I mean like you’re an independent contractor just like a hair cutter you have to let people know like my services are available but you have to do that all by yourself um yes I kind of do slack sure most definitely slack but yeah we do and you know it’s it goes beyond that you know it’s not it could be the little thing that makes it go off it’s not all about having the most followers or it could be as simple as you know like just going out and talking to people or you know I went out for a night of fun in Colorado and I was like I’ll be of course guys are going to talk to you okay well you really want to talk to me well how about you come talk to me here where you can for sure get lucky yeah you know that’s in itself is a big thing just for advertising yeah sometimes even more so than you know the platforms yeah yeah you know not to bring up but that’s exactly what I was thinking I of course I’m thinking of it through the lens of a platform but I didn’t think about it the way you said it I was thinking like you know some people will join only fans and they’ll have their favorite models on only fans and like you say I think it’s a cool pitch to be able to be like if you like what you see you can literally come to Bellas you know you’ll for sure get lucky with it yeah yeah well cool um well before we go uh you know I know that this is a vague open it in question but anything else that you just want to say to the world anybody that’s watching right now this is uh well make sure you come check out Sabrina’s sweetheart AB absolutely well cool Sabrina thank you so much put it right here yep and uh folks I hope you enjoyed this conversation as much as I did thanks SAA that was easy right yes yes cool you probably have enough to do a series you like my what like these boots I love these boots boots I love these boots Justin you have that camera rolling cool you should get those boots on camera real quick before we get too into it yes you may have that sweet that’s cool thank you you know and that’s what they need to understand and and it’s kind of a condensed thing right that if they can follow those guidelines they be successful because it it means they’re willing to do what others aren’t willing to do yeah yeah but boy is that really hard to hold yourself accountable yeah you know I think I’ll lay down till the urge passes yeah pretty much oh that’s my biggest battle holding myself accountable you know oh I can call you all the time hey yeah yeah well um Bella it’s been a pleasure to visit with you over the last two days like I just want to thank you again uh for the opportunity to not only speak with you but to openly just walk around the brothel and take it all in and but also to speak with some of the working women and and hear their perspectives not only of their experience here but their experience at other places it was so cool so thank you like I I just want to thank you yes you’re and you’re welcome and um and I feel in my heart that every one of them are a perfect fit here and whatever you know like I think happppy said we all have a past yeah but is this a fit is is being with Bella a fit so that they they’re comfortable enough secure enough in their in their footsteps to actually get momentum and and be I’m going to call it secure financially yeah yeah and you know I just have to say one of the things that that one of the working girls told me off the Record that I thought sounded really good on your part I know that me starting that sentence you’re like oh no where’s this going uh they told me off the Record that one of the reasons they love your place so much is because they don’t know who’s the top Booker there’s no like you get the best rooms if you’re making the best money like it as we talked about in our first conversation it seems like that just pits people against each other and it sounds like you’re really doing it the the way it should be done so I just wanted to to pass that on uh to you and kind of get your thoughts on that you know I believe that women never need to know who’s made what all right and and why is that important um it can bring down their self-esteem all right and sometimes that gets rather damaged as we as we come out of our uh younger years high school years uh maybe feel like you know someone told us well you can do anything you want except that what I thought you said I could do anything I want well yeah but you know it’s ridiculous and why would anyone cap someone’s passion and so as I was explaining earlier to an individual I said he wanted to know why beginning cortis made less I said they have to learn they have to learn that it isn’t about them and and the money that they want to attract and and part of that is but they have to understand that to them in the very beginning $300 might be a lot of money MH and in a few weeks $1,200 might seem like the amount that they’re comfortable asking for all right because you can’t offer a $1,200 client a $300 party right it won’t fit he won’t take it he’s not looking for a deal he’s looking for a match with a gal that has the experience and the um I’m I’m going to call it the the the services that can actually match where he’s at in life yeah and so that can take just a little while it certainly doesn’t have to take years you know if you think about it when you were very young and and let’s say say there was a $20 job out there and you couldn’t imagine being paid $20 now you wouldn’t get the job you weren’t in alignment with that type of money per hour so you would probably get a job at $8 an hour or whatever because that was in alignment with your uh willingness to attract you know uh I’m going to call it a certain amount of money yeah we have to grow out of that yeah you know and we were talking the other day about picking strawberries as kids or green beans or whatever you know it’s like whole four cents a court I didn’t make hardly any money because I ate all the good strawberries but you 4 cents a court you’re on your knees all day you did it one day and you figured out oh no that is being a a I’m going to call it a farm laborer was well I wasn’t cut out to do that so but I gave it a go I made $14 yeah all day probably got a sunburn too so you know those are things that have to be in alignment as they you know go forward and so it’s like I have um some what I call booking sheets that give them an idea about what we call time and money it isn’t in stone we’re selling experience es but they need to understand what everyone else is typically Char charging for services so that up here catches up and I I think that’s like working at the community college and then all of a sudden you’re ready for the University you’re ready yeah you know you’re chomping I’ve got this yeah and you had to become that yeah that’s pretty brilliant yeah totally separate subject and of course I don’t mean to shift gears because that was really deep I didn’t expect that to be that deep um it’s Bella it’s Bella yeah um but uh uh so I wanted to ask like so in Illinois and in many states they have it so that dispensaries must be at least like sometimes 1500 feet away from from each other I won’t name any names but there’s a brothel within spitting distance um do you do you their competition to you or how do how do you view them are they just another shop in town like the gas stations look at each other well it’s it goes back to when they wrote the code yeah all right and and the the vote was two there would never be anymore all right so that actually makes the license quite valuable because this is the crossroads to the Western United States the best location of any brothel yeah that one hasn’t been run correctly in 23 years it’s like wrong owner doesn’t get it and so there was a time they outperform me but that was like 2000 right so I I utilize that to learn and then all of a sudden it all just went right into the ditch over there when a sale happened and it never came back so they aren’t competition I I they’re um if someone picked up their license it would be a lot of work to take something that has attracted virtually no one for 23 years and have that that determination to make it something yeah and you know a gentleman did come in here and he he said well you know I think there’s lower hanging fruit than your brothel Bella I said well yeah but look at the difference in the too I said do you have the money and the time and uh and the energy to learn how to attract women to learn how to train women to have the house maybe or maybe not look like this one and because that’s actually um 1950 trailers pushed under a roof someone said there’s a train car under there but I don’t know so it it it’s something that’s incredibly unfixable yeah well dang I was about to ask you if you would ever consider purchasing that license but it I don’t know if is it fixable by Bella at least no I can only own one oh oh so there’s a license limitation so is it that a an a person or entity can only own one license or just here just here yeah so you could theoretically I could go to Elco or I could go you know somewhere else just your town but I there’s only one me and as you can see it takes a great deal of energy yeah yeah and and um I always think that you know once I once can split into that then my energy is divided and probably it would take two to do what one’s doing yeah that’s basically like a probably a scientific fact because the energy required to do one thing well doesn’t mean that well all of a sudden I’ll just double my money true and uh and am I of course I appreciate the money that shared they know what I’m doing I tell them you know I I because they deserve to know yeah they deserve to know that you know the the new expansion was uh $250,000 the roow that goes out to 95 was $250,000 you know I mean my Billboards uh the B this one here I mean that everything to be done right is many many many thousands of dollars so and I’m not a banner girl where you know you put up there you know world famous and it’s on a b sheet of plywood and you bang it up that’s just not my style yeah I want it to look like the Taj Mahal and in here obviously we needed to be on the other side of the tracks we want the families to stay together in town we aren’t in competition yeah with town is that another part of the regulation that you are on this side of the trucks well a lot of the brothel are right down the street like in Mount house yeah or or right all around them are just like auto wrecking yards yes okay well why is it that way who’s going to move a big subdivision in so they have longevity there as a brothel yeah nobody’s going to push them out so that they can build on it right right so there’s there’s a logic behind where they’re where they’re located yeah I wondered about that thank you I didn’t even clearly ask that question I felt like you gave me a good answer so so um well cool I was gonna yeah ask you you know I’ve asked all the the basically all the girls I think they all sound like they’re doing well for themselves Bella are you doing well for yourself I mean you have a nice vehicle is that too personal of a question um um actually I’m doing really well good okay and and I’m going to say here okay first uh and I was going to call it like on a internal soul level you know when I was younger I I was pretty frantic about the financial obligations that I was instructed to assume all right and and when I was talking earlier with that gentleman from the vice he he wanted a few details and I said you know told them little thing about I 80 and the barricades and when it opened and I said I said so when my late husband was sort of in romanced into this purchase and other people were supposed to run it I said everything came through town I said it was stand Landing room only you had to fight your way to the bar to get a drink and I said by the time I came along he brings me up here interstates open and I go we all this money for this because I didn’t understand what all this money and where’s the business right and so it’s like and then I was put in a position to reinvent how this was going to thrive so now okay how am I going to have it Thrive okay the the next logical thing to do is to become the spokesperson for the brothel industry yeah and and by that I don’t mean representing them just saying we all are legally licensed and I’m speaking speaking about my concepts of what and where the industry should be going MH and everyone else is silent right that’s all they just want the money to come in right well we all know what happens if you stop pedaling the bicycle it begins to desell things have to be Progressive they have to move forward they have to adapt they have to be adap they have to change with the times yeah they have to they have to have service and value so every party isn’t a $5,000 party or you know $1,200 party are the clients leaving happy because they’re going to tell somebody and if they have a a poor experience they’re going to tell even more people you know and I’m I’m thinking that it might have been Justine that got to hear a phone call from someone that was so thankful to be to to be received and and treated in a way that they absolutely had to call in and be thankful about so if that’s a great you know that’s a great representation of what is is here now then we just got to keep doing more that yeah I the way we did get that phone Co recorded por yeah I heard that’s super cool uh yeah that’s it’s cool because I do did same thing my me hey whoever that pizza that was great so it’s cool to hear you get the same um so as we start to rra I’d love for you as America m is it the American mad or America’s M American M the American I love it I love it so as the American M feel free to say it right to the camera to our listeners okay why should prostitution be legal and I know we’ve touched on that so many different places but yeah I’m I’m going to say that the the idea of legal licensed houses that are referred to as prostitution should be regulated and legalized and of course there’s already a blueprint for it in Nevada and the reason is people want to experience their sexuality and they want to many times be with multiple partners but they want to do it at a location where they can be safe they don’t and and that includes uh medically medically and when you provide a destination like that with a variety of women like all nationalities that is something that a person can’t find out in the normal world so it it that destination allows them to actually experience I’m going to say their their sexuality safely okay and I’m thinking that’s part of that’s the biggest part that’s missing without locations for people to go to okay because there’s no one that can go get exactly what they want for let’s say money and carry that memory for their whole life and never feel badly about the fact that that’s exactly what they wanted so are our struggle is Being Human correctly and being human correctly isn’t about saying a kind word to someone however we could use some help there too it’s about how to express our sexuality without any manipulation to someone else and and having that other person be absolutely in alignment with having that same experience with you or with you know the client the guest gu so the the destination becomes for lack of a better way of saying it like for some people the very best vacation they could have orchestrated for themselves yeah yeah well said well um that was my last big question this is a random question that I just wanted to ask it literally just came to mind and I don’t know how it came to mind but I just and I don’t expect you to have an answer for this I want to be clear but why do you think somebody like Hugh Hefner got never got into this it’s like he was right in California wasn’t it like you know right over there it seems doing his thing I always wondered like they had the Playboy Mansion but why didn’t they have the the Playboy brothel you know California does things a little odd at times you know why would you open dispensaries and you have no license for growing where’s it coming from right you know is it just showing up from a trunk of a car yeah but they they sort of sometimes get the horse after the cart right yeah but I’m thinking that like Mr Hefner he you know he came across as a Playboy whatever he wanted to already had and so it was more about wasn’t exploiting women as as such it it seemed in a way like a way for young women that were very pretty a lot of them of course Very blonde to like pin a little label on themselves like well well I’m a bunny you know I’m a Playboy bunny uh in today’s world it’s like well I’m a porn star we don’t have the Playboy Bunny thing going and that was probably a lot of that could have had a lot of illegal activity associated with it but he capitalized on it financially yeah and so he was great businessman but he didn’t have like a model of something that he could franchise as such you know there you little clubs you know in certain towns but it wasn’t wasn’t going to come to Wells yeah yeah I don’t think they’d show up I know Playboy brothel and Wells well um I think this is actually a good last question and maybe I’ll teach you something here uh and maybe I’ll even teach my audience something so the Cole memo is not just me leaning into my own name it’s actually a reference to federal drug policy regarding cannabis so as some may know cannabis is illegal federally but at a state level here in Nevada and in my home State Illinois and some other states it’s now legal at a state level I was just curious you know from what I understood cannabis employees have trouble banking because of that intersection between federal and state law not so much asking about banking I’m just asking is prostitution illegal at a federal level like I’ve never really thought about that until I you know cuz cannabis was illegal at the Federal level but then the states said yes but do you know that like is well we should have sovereignty over them you know we should yeah I would think that if they were to you know make a law another law to add to the Constitution or the Bill of Rights they would make it illegal but right now I I don’t believe that there is an actual I’m going to call it a law that would stand up in Nevada that would close us down right right yeah and I again I didn’t mean uh like that it would get you closed down or anything but because like I think of it as cannabis dispensaries as well you go over to Utah you don’t see any cannabis dispensaries because it’s not legal by state law and but there’s always been that intersection between federal and state law so I hadn’t thought of it until just now thinking about my own show name and like what it meant I was like is prostitution IL legal at a federal level but it sounds like maybe there’s not really a law defined at the big government level yeah there I don’t think there’s anything that I’m pretty darn sure because there was a case that some years back and they wanted to say oh this federal law says that all of this is illegal it did not stand up it it’s failed and we carried on well we were carrying on anyway yeah yeah and so yeah to close that’s kind of what I wondered States sorry dispensaries are are allowed to operate under the coal memo they’re saying [ __ ] federal law this is the state law right but it sounds like like you say there’s not really anything there’s not anything uh akin to that in sex work there’s not a Cole memo for like you know need Bella memo yet yeah no but it’d be cool though right yeah I need maybe I need a memo yeah that could be the name of your show the Bella memo oh there you go anyways well right now we’d have to get some time to do more right yeah so well Bella I want to put it right here and uh I want to give you the opportunity because I know I keep asking my questions before we go do you want the space to say anything to uh our listeners anybody tuning in anything at all it’s your floor literally okay I do I want want to say that if you haven’t already please visit bellas.us that’s B l. us our um uh Twitter isn’t it a handle right our Twitter handle is bellasa so that’s b l l a s h a c i n d a so friend us okay you have any questions email us stop by there is no obligation there’s no cover charge you’re welcome ask questions and then obviously it’s cash credit card and we have an ATM here so you can mix and match and shop until there’s nothing left of you well folks this has been an amazing experience I hope I know that the camera and and I can’t give you the full experience but it is my hope that you’re feeling what I’m feeling which is uh blessed to have this opportunity so thank you B thank you and I’m blessed because you you traveled a long way yeah you know trusting what I said in our in your first podcast with me yeah so yeah and trusting that you wouldn’t I was just thinking on the way here like I really hope she doesn’t just cancel on me at the last second and we didn’t drive up to Nevada for no reason but you no yeah so thank you you’re welcome thank you so well folks we’ll see you take care bye for now and there’s nothing sure to die in that’s half as lome as the [Music] sound of the sleeping City side wall and Sunday morning coming down in the park I saw a daddy with a laughing little girl that he was [Music] swinging and I stopped beside a Sunday school and listen to the songs they were singing then I hit it down the street and somewhere far away a lonely Bell was [Music] ringing and it echoed through the Canyons like a disappearing dreams of [Music] yesterday on a Sunday morning side W I’m wishing Lord that I was sto home CU there’s something in a Sunday that makes the body feel alone and there’s nothing sure to die [Music] in that’s half as Lonesome as the [Music] sound of the sleeping City side wall and Sunday morning coming [Music] [Applause] down [Music] a [Music] a [Music] a [Music] [Music] no [Music] yeah [Music] [Applause] a [Music] oh
The Cole Memo 
Leave a comment