The Cole Memo

In this episode, Kiki makes a compelling return to share her experiences working in a brothel in Nevada. During the conversation, she sheds light on the toxic working environment that she endured. We also talk about her current workplace and the reasons behind her decision to leave the previous brothel she was employed at.

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in this episode of the Cole memo I sit back down with Kiki lover the last time I spoke with Kiki before we got on air she told me that her employer told her that she wasn’t allowed to say anything bad on my podcast there’s more to come on that I’ve since spoken to her employer but in this episode she is returning for what I’m calling it’s hell all she left her former employer and from what I understand she’s talking about everything that they don’t want her to talk about uh including the culture and so much more so folks I think you’re going to find a lot of value in this episode before I send you into this episode I just want to let you know that you’re listening to the Cole memo and I am your host Cole Preston every episode of the Cole memo is released in audio video and transcript format to find the transcript audio or video version of any episode please refer to the description of the episode that you’re listening to now within that description you can find a link that will take 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episode give it a thumbs up leave a comment or post a review your engagement and support is appreciated and folks as I said a bit ago I know you’re going to enjoy this episode of the Cole memo I just want to say if you missed Kiki’s first episode just because I said she wasn’t able to say anything quote bad on the episode I still think it was a pH phen Al episode and I must say every other episode in this series delivers its own perspective its own unique perspective and so I recommend you check out each one of them if you’re able to at the memo.com seex once again that’s the co memo.com seex to stream all episodes that have been released today today is December 25th 2023 and the interview that is featured in today’s episode was released on July 20th it looks like believe that’s July 20th 2023 let me just double check that really quickly yeah it looks like July 20th 2023 so folks keep that in mind and enjoy this episode of the Cole memo [Music] Kiki thank you so much for sitting back down with me today um hi yeah remind folks who you are my name is Kiki lover I’m a legal sex worker in Nevada um I’m in my 20s I love having fun and meeting people and I love chatting so thank you so much cole for having me on your podcast today yeah thanks for coming back um I really enjoyed the last time we’ve spoke and uh it’s so cool having gotten to know a lot of different people in this world uh some of the people that know you I was mentioning Tor Lisa she’s been on the show a few times and said that she knows you and stuff um yeah we work together for a minute there yeah well hey um before we get into everything that we wanted to talk about I thought it would be cool to um let you plug um your website and and anything else you might want to just tell us about I saw some exciting articles uh you’ve done recently but um um yeah thank you I am very popular on social media I’m trying to get like more viral I got into Tik Tok um I have my website which is kikil lover kink.net my Twitter kikil lover Kink um there it is you like the pink pink is my favorite color all shades of pink don’t to don’t I look so innocent in that picture Zoom it in like my profile picture a look how cute she looks so innocent looking but let us you know I’m super spicy um Bella’s henda’s brothel tour with Kiki lover I work at Bella’s now so I did a tour of the VIP room in there it’s actually pretty exciting like it’s a nice room it looks like kind of um you know old school saloons saloons or whatever you call them yeah and that’s that’s the that this house has you’re gonna love it when you come over um what else like you can just Google me every everywhere I’m like kiky lover or kiky lover Kink because I’m very kinky and I love providing Kink sessions that’s awesome that’s awesome I was about to um share with people a peek at that video I was just trying to find the part where you you went into the um master bedroom it does look like a interesting place folks just go on the Twitter account uh kikil lover Kil lover Kink on Twitter if you’d like to see the tour of Bella’s aie and de brothel that’s cool that you were able to do that and that’s one of the things you said right off the bat that you really liked about your new location that they are cool with you know it’s funny yeah you’re not you’re not able to buy ads you’re not able to you know do anything like that so how else do you let people know other than making YouTube videos and stuff right he no no no no because like this is a serious topic the place that I used to work at there was like it was so hard for me to get myself out there and do marketing and put myself in like podcast newspapers articles and all that stuff you know it was kind of like you had to I don’t know like get permission and all this stuff well I remember before very friendly towards that I love that Bella and I we are on the same U mental capability like the same um Vision we both the same vision So lately I just I’ve only been there like a month now but I’ve worked with for her with her before during covid and she’s very open to Media she’s very open to putting us out there and letting the world know um who we are and what we provide so I’ve already done like couple articles with um Daily Star and we have a really great marketing media dude um he’s Top Notch uh I’ve done an article with a Daily Star I’ve done with day with um vital Vegas and we are talking to um NADA independent like the newspaper this week about um so Bella is trying okay I’m like going off so you know our work card like our Sheriff’s card to be able as a legal prostitute quison in Nevada it says prostitute so we are right now CH trying to change the wording of it yeah what do you want to change it to well Bella and us we are trying to change it from saying prostitute toan because prostitute is just a very degrading word it has like such bad stigma around it and I feel like the business is being more modernized and it’s not the 1980s anymore don’t refer to me as a prostitute even though like that is a job right but cortison just sounds more lovely more classy more human not dag good story you know what I mean mhm yeah absolutely yeah sound like fancy right and then when a client comes in the house and the girls do a lineup the staff member that introduces us she doesn’t say here’s all the prostitutes she says here’s all the korans that would love to meet you and spend time with you right yeah yeah so we’re trying to get that word off the sheriff card very interesting oh are you still there oh there you go sorry I thought I lost you um um so uh I wanted to just I wanted to rewind the tape if you don’t mind because it is nice to hear that you are uh back at a better place you know that is more accepting and um one of the things you had mentioned before our last interview and you just alluded to was that like well let me just say what you said before our last interview you’re were like hey my employer says I can’t say anything bad you know and so uh I want wanted to ask you like you mentioned before we got on toxic and stuff like that what did you mean by that you know what do you mean my employer maybe I’m remembering incorrectly you said somebody said not to say anything bad or or something like that so who like Sage I think so yeah because that’s where you were that’s where you were at yeah but maybe I’m remembering incorrectly I smoke a lot of weed so no I didn’t say that about um my current partnership no no no not your current partnership your former one oh you’re my former one yeah correct sorry I didn’t mean to you know back then in that place we were very much not able to speak up we was not we were not at all it was just very you had no opinion type a place you had no opinion you couldn’t speak you know yeah like for an instance when that shooting happened [ __ ] it let’s talk about it yeah that shooting happens when that one of our co-workers decided to shoot up the place which made me feel very unsafe I don’t know how other people are just like play downgrading it and like playing it down or whatever but to me it was just like oh my God my workplace is getting shut up like what what am I in the in the trap house and how did it go down do you remember you were there yes I was there how did it go there and it was just like you cannot talk to Media you canot talk about it you know what I don’t like this is I’m I’m exercising my fif Fifth Amendment right of freedom of speech and this was my experience from my personal level like it was my experience this is what I experienced over there you can’t sow me for speaking up and exercising my fi right um no it was just like do not talk about it it didn’t happen don’t speak to Media don’t speak to nobody about it and like there’s no security no nothing you don’t know it just was scary yeah absolutely scary that’s crazy and that brings me that brings me into like the toxicity that I have uh had to endure for the last six years I it was a lot it was a lot what sort of things would go on I mean I’ve heard it described as a college dorm oh my God not College more like high school with very immature small-minded girls that’s what I would describe it as immature small-minded girls who do not know what they’re doing you know I was their top Booker for years for six year six years six years I was there toall Booker um and I it was not okay with none of the stuff that went on in there like thank God it’s over over right blessing in disguise right but all the stuff that went on in there I was not okay with any of it like let me give you some examples why not so there is this girl right she she’s a very popular girl we’re not going to name no names because I don’t I don’t care that much to name names one of the top Bookers you might know who I’m talking about but there’s a girl currently that still works there they they’re still holding on to because she makes type of money you know who poured milkshake on the other girl’s laptop because she didn’t want her to talk to her clients because she wanted to [ __ ] up her business crazy right yeah right um another instance let me give you another example uh Dave uh there was this redot girl she she used to make money right they got so jealous of her they went into her room and like you know shampoo bottles they emptied out her shampoo bottle I’m put n in her shampoo bottle a plus for creativity horrible [ __ ] horrible wow put hair in her shampoo to make her lose hair so did did she lose hair wow so so and and what other what are some other things that that you’ve heard of going on I mean I’ve heard of like drug use and violence uh or at least the threat of violence yeah yeah everything so all of that like that’s one of the reasons that I started feeling so uncomfortable in there there was like drug use like cocaine and I was like hold on like what are what are we even doing math girls doing math I didn’t even know what math was until I came to Nevada crazy right um and everybody’s an alcoholic you know they they drink themselves to death every night and it was for me it was kind of the if you can’t beat them join them right so I did start drinking heavily in that place and I was not okay with that so I was so glad to be gone like I was so glad to get out of there um most of the girls they all of the girls everybody at that place right now we’re not going to name no names because you don’t deserve it um every night it was just like at the bar area everybody drinks until they they block out and then be mean to each other start arguments start cattiness and I’m not a like I don’t think like a female you know what I mean so they just do the whole drama talk talk talk talk [ __ ] I don’t really like to talk a lot so yeah I guess I like to talk a lot today but well that’s that’s what this is for that’s the podcast I we we like our guests to talk you know because it’s you have such an interesting job and you’ve been through I don’t mean to say what you’ve been I mean what you’ve been through has been interesting but I’m sorry to hear what you have been through also Kiki so thank you for being so transparent about this because I think it’s important for history you know and I feel like my uh my fans and my followers need to to know why the reason why I left you know I didn’t just leave because I’m not good at I don’t like what I do I don’t like like my job personally I love my job I love what I do I love having sex I love getting paid for it but the establishment I don’t have a problem with the owners the staff no problem the girls I very much didn’t did not care for whatsoever um so that’s why it was just not going to fit there’s like a thousand you know like 12 15 girls who I did not feel like I belonged in the same environment like okay another reason another like example like there was this girl who like had cancer in her voice was um um a little deeper dude they [ __ ] bullied this girl out the house they keep bullying girls out the house bullying girls out the house but I know my personality so I needed to go I really did it was not it was not fun yeah and what do you um have you heard like grown [ __ ] woman grownup woman acting like it’s high school yeah that’s crazy stupid that’s crazy and it shows that they have a what’s called a scarcity mindset instead of you know realizing that there’s enough for everybody you know like if they’re bullying is enough for everybody that’s the problem I was their top Booker and I wasn’t even trying oh even trying let me say that again like I wasn’t even trying it’s a bunch of [ __ ] lazy lazy small-minded girls instead of marketing instead of putting thems themselves out there they rather just be Petty to each other and and act like [ __ ] Childs kids yeah you know like where you have to understand we are in the middle of the desert we cannot advertise as independent ladies you know those like websites like Eros all those websites for independent girls we cannot advertise on that so these girls instead of advertising instead of putting themselves out there and like trying to figure out ways and other marketing strategies they rather sit there and drink themselves to death and argue with each other yeah yeah that’s crazy what was I don’t mean to bounce around what was something else I you told me you had a few things you wanted to specifically talk about and I feel like I’m I started jumping around I want to give you the space like that’s what’s cool about this podcast we don’t have advertisements to go to like you can talk uh so yeah what are some other things you wanted to talk about today and by the way I just wanted to show you this picture this is all I can share right now in the future I’ve got like I I’m working on editing this but check out this picture I took I thought it was kind of funny and I think my fans will like this this is a teaser for you Kiki and for my fans I went to the town that you used to work in I mentioned this to you already Kiki that I went to the Bunny Ranch um you have like um what are yeah I had a drone drone yep so here’s the sign for Sage Brush The Love Ranch the KitKat Ranch and an adult Cabaret but the reason I like this picture is because there’s also a dispensary and store where you can buy guns which I think is funny y so I just wanted to share that really quick um that’s where that’s one of those places is where you used to work we don’t have to we don’t even have to name names like you said um it’s not worth it but um what are some other things you wanted to talk about again I want to give you the space so um because I have ideas but I you you mentioned you had specific things so I wanted to give oh like one of my huge issues was not being able to Market myself how I see fit like I’m an independent contractor right I’m an independent contractor right that’s what it says on the contract right right um talking but like if I’m an independent contractor I have a I have to be forced or mandatory 12h hour shift and on the weekend it was 14 hour shift right I didn’t like that Nei so if you are um independent contractor you should be able to to work whenever you feel like you should be able to um accomplish your contracts within your time frame within your uh fruition whatever so the 12 hours 14 hours mandatory on the weekend like I understand why they give that to certain girls because certain girls just don’t know how to handle their business and they will probably be sleeping all day so I understand why they give it to some girls but I don’t feel like it’s oh taking aead I don’t feel like it’s um appropriate for all girls because if you give me a shift you’re treating me as an employee so therefore you got to give me an hourly on top of my commission you know yeah yeah that’s that’s pretty speaking I know my laws yeah you know I do my research and learn a little bit about everything yeah that’s pretty crazy it is it really was 16 six years 16 years six years that I worked there and I dealt with [ __ ] the whole time honestly yeah and I was gonna ask did I’ve heard some people say that that you know and I know that managers can come and go so it’s hard to it it may be you know whoever this may have happened to this person may have come and gone but I’ve heard some people say that people will stir up drama that aren’t even involved have you ever heard of that okay so let me put that out there I’ve never had an issue with the with the owner like she was very sweet to me she was very respectful treated me very well um the staff members all of them were sweets respectful I never had a problem because I know how to carry myself and I was only there to make my money legal and get out I just wanted to go in there like my little four days work my shifts make my money legal which I make a lot of I do like I’m their top Booker and I never had an issue with step I really didn’t like my manager she was a sweetheart I really liked my manager um the girls I just couldn’t I I couldn’t it got overwhelming and it was so stressful like it was a very very stressful environment to the point that it was affecting my person personal life and I like to separate my work life is not my personal life and it was just like all of it was stressing me out to the point I’ll be home and I’m thinking about some some girl like why am I thinking about this girl I have no idea who this girl is like why do why do I have these girls stressing me out you know so there you go like yeah well and one of the things I wanted to ask you about to your your point of like going there it sounds like you’ve been very successful and last time we spoke you mentioned you know you’ve got a you know your own house and everything else but I wanted to ask you about some of the women that come in with your the goals that you had I’ve heard this from some people that like some people come in with the goals that you have but then maybe they don’t do as well and they describe it as this like Vortex of debt in other words they come in like focusing on their future and hoping to get future super rich but then so rude right now I’m just gonna cat you off right there I’m Gonna Be So Rude right now but if you cannot make it as a prostitute you probably should go work somewhere else okay fair enough I know it sounds really rude when you put it that way but I love that my new establishment if you cannot make money as a prostitute as a working girl as a cortison companion SL escort whatever ever if you cannot be successful at it maybe you should go um follow other um um Adventures if you cannot make it you shouldn’t like that I dealt with that a lot like there was so many girls that would come up to me right like at at the place I used to work at they would come up to me how do you make so much money how do you get clients and like I’m like how about you cash app me for advice I want to say that but it wasn’t TR to yeah that’s that’s you gotta pay too baby like you know I just if it’s not for you it is not for you move on please and thank you and I wish you the best yeah but is it have you encountered that where girls will get in in a lot of debt yeah absolutely hundreds and hundreds I’ve been there six years do you know how many girls I’ve seen come in and out like come in to weeks three weeks and they’ll go under in that because you owe your doctor you owe your Sheriff’s card you owe room on board $40 a day and like two weeks three weeks later that’s that’s being in Z right if you’re not good at the job you know and it’s acceptable you should accept the fact that it’s not for you or this establishment is not for you and move on make room and that’s why another reason why I like my new establishment because um the owner and I have the same mindset you know we do so if you are not successful you got two weeks TR out if you’re not successful you got to go um yeah so it’s it’s not for you move on yeah can I ask you you mentioned this happened over like this type of environment was over a span of six years this kind of toxic caddy is caddy a nice word for it environment oh yeah caddy Cy girly [ __ ] gross [ __ ] yeah what was the final straw for you well the first thing was when my place of work got shot up and it like shot up you can and again how can you tell me about that CA like what happened the girl lost her mind and shot at the place what do you want me to tell you well what I here let me ask you this I went to a gas station down the street from the Bunny Ranch and I I was just asking him I was like cuz there’s a sign right next to it that said Bunny Ranch and I was like because I hadn’t gone to it yet so I asked him like oh is the Bunny Ranch right up the road he’s like well you got to go down a little bit then you take a left and go up the road he’s like you can’t miss it and I was like cool and I was like what do you think about that as a gas station owner and he’s like well a lot of the girls come down here he’s like I don’t think anything of it they’re all you know they’re all pretty you know nothing really happens and I was like I asked him about the shooting and he said oh that was he’s like oh that was more than it was the girl just shot in the air but you said that she shot up the place I was just curious like what happened we have no idea we’re not told anything oh you know did she shoot at Air Force Amy or sorry did she shoot at uh no but you know what she did do is throw eggs at Air Force Amy’s door wow but at the same time that girl is not nice either yeah yeah it’s to Alice he was an [ __ ] to Alice sure you know yeah she the first time I met Air Force say I’m so sorry I I wasn’t gonna say names we can stop I wasn’t going to say names but the first time I met her we was all in a limo and she was bullying Alice you know so it was like MH like they’re all [ __ ] [ __ ] crazy it’s crazy so so what again sorry you said the shooting what was what I was asking you what was the final straw and then I started asking you about the shooting because you brought it up again and you said you don’t you’re not really clear on what happened there but you heard did you hear shots is that can I ask you that you hear like Bam Bam Bam like is where you’re in your room and like you know it’s like two different houses okay so you know the first house is like across the street and then the other house is across the street but at the same time like that could happen in either places why is the felon working there I thought you guys don’t hire felings true right I didn’t think about that a big deal you giv this glamorous uh V Vision or image you’re giv this this image we do not hire felons why was a felon there and why why was a felon there yeah I did not even think about that uh because a felon well whoever is somebody right well it talks about that in the news articles that that the person was not supposed to have a gun because they were a felon and I never thought about the fact I never thought about the fact that they weren’t supposed to be hired than if they were a felon that’s a good point you if you’re a felon you wasn’t you’re not supposed to be hired why was she there if she’s a felon interesting so why are you putting out this image of glamorous beautiful a classy establishment and you have a felon that that that could have uh you know hurted people yeah yeah and you do not have security you know I asked about this because because there’s another house that I worked at and they have security they have like three um guned like licensed to carry um armed men security at their establishment and I asked about that I was like when that whole thing happened I was like why don’t we have security you know why don’t we yeah because we need that girls get in a fight all the time you don’t know who’s the selling you don’t know who’s carrying you know you do not know so you’re you’re threatening my safety yeah yeah when I went there uh there was the only person that was security was this like short uh person that if I if I was a violent person could have done I could have gotten through them like there was no security as my point now they did they did ask to search me um credit to them you know I just want to give credit where credit is due they did like not let me in there without searching me they searched me thoroughly search in your bag yeah yeah because if you have a backpack they usually look in yeah I just had a fanny pack but yeah yeah like I I know like I used to have a customer because it’s NADA everybody is licensed to KY and I used to have this this client who just wouldn’t go anywhere without his gun right and he would come see me and we would lock his um firearms in the office because I felt uncomfortable with him bringing it into my room like I understand there but it just it was crazy to me that some felon was shooting up the place and risking everybody’s life like we’re just trying to make money yeah and everything was so against yeah yeah toxic environment was that was the shooting the last STW or was sorry was it just the idea that it could happen there uh again I feel like I cut you off by asking about details about the shooting no it was not the shooting I’m I’m ready like I I make sure that I’m safe at all times that was not the issue I didn’t like I just thought it was weird and was inappropriate and everything that you just told me was not what you offer me you offer me safety you tell me there’s no felons in here but therefore there was felons in there that was not my last straw I make sure I’m safe at all times but the the last straw was just like I couldn’t okay so I was toall Booker right I don’t really uh like to socialize with with the girls I don’t I like to focus on myself and make my money and go home and it was just like impossible for me to do my job without getting into it with this one getting into it with that one that one the one after her like it was just impossible everybody tries me all the time and it was getting annoying aggravating and a waste of time a total waste of time like I don’t want to argue with with working girls all the time that’s not what I’m here for I’m here to make my money legal and go home and I mean a lot of money so I was Tau Booker every time they bring some lost soul some girl who has no idea what the [ __ ] she doing it was like who who who like it was Kiki she tries to get my attention I was having drama on a weekly basis literally I’m I’m getting into it with with all of them because it’s jealousy and pettiness and nastiness every single week and I got tired of it and I got burnt out of it and at some point the money was not even worth it because I can make that by myself I can make that anywhere like you put me in the desert in the middle [ __ ] nowhere I’m still going to make 50,000 a month and I just did 54,000 in a month wow I didn’t make that this month I don’t know I don’t know if I make that in a year Kik I’m very humble I’m not cocky at all like I’m very humble but I need to like sometimes you just gota speak up yeah yeah I knew how it is I appreciate it and I was just curious like what was the last day like like did you like were you just like [ __ ] it I’m walking out or had you already I’m walking out I’m making sure I got fired because I’m not a quitter I never quit anything how you make sure you got fired I did make sure I got fired uh well actually was it was I already had quit like months before I was just like making sure that like I said I have fomo and I just made sure that I was no longer there cuz I got tired of listening she said she said she said she said like shut the [ __ ] up all of you shut up you know um there was some [ __ ] girl talking like she was telling my customers I did this this and that and I’m just like and my customers would come back to me and tell me that and I’m just like oh my God this [ __ ] low life Street girl like literally a [ __ ] street walker talking to me talking about me like that like annoying as [ __ ] I didn’t pay her no mind I still made my money um and I just I’m a very peaceful person I like peace and quiet at all times peace and quiet I don’t like to to argue because I take it to the extreme I don’t like girls drama because I could give two [ __ ] less and it was just consistent every every week I’m saying every week like every day I wake up to I know just like you know what [ __ ] it I’m out like some birds chirping at each other seriously small-minded people extremely small-minded small-minded that’s that’s all I can describe is describe it as small minded like I don’t speak like this when I’m at work like when I’m working but [ __ ] you should be worried about your money why why are you worried about that one that one and that one like these [ __ ] these [ __ ] used to make F so this girl beautiful girl tall Slim Blondie beautiful hair she had this beautiful white gown on like gorgeous white gown like I wanted it I wanted to ask her where it was from this girl comes out to the Parlor and she is [ __ ] gorgeous she looks like an angel right like literally if you think of an Angel the [ __ ] looked like that these girls bullied her into changing her her dress because they were so jealous of her and then they started over over there tweet tweet tweet tweet twitching oh she looks like a wooden um a [ __ ] what’s it called like the wedding what’s it called the doll or no the wife the groom oh you know uh the bride she looks like a bride she looks like a bride and the girl can can clearly hear them they were bullying her the I’m I’m not talking about like these are 15 years old girls these are like 20 something late 20s 30 years old 40 years old women like grown as woman they they started chip chapping the girl felt so uncomfortable she went to her room and took off that beautiful gun and came back in something more skimpier and I was just sitting there like that ain’t right that’s not right yeah that’s insane not any H who I had to get out of there before I catch a charge yeah yeah I just wondered it like for for me I feel like I sorry for prying but I just wondered if there was like a a rock bottom moment or anything like that like did you have any like or was it just seriously just just that continued chirping like you said was it like could defeat it like I don’t know that’s how I am there’s just like one day where I like get sick and I’m like I can’t do this anymore you know exactly what happened to me yeah like it was a long time that I was like I don’t want to be here no more I don’t want to be around these these weirdos anymore for a long time like for the the whole 2022 the whole 2023 I was just like I don’t want to be around these people you know I want to make make my money legal so bad I want to work legally so I can advertise and not be arrested and not put nothing on my record I’ve never been as an adult I’ve never been arrested in my life I do not have a record I’m a great [ __ ] human being and I wanted part to be part of society and pay my taxes and put my money in the bank and I was at least I didn’t walk away with nothing I paid off my home my car is paid off like you know I’m very smart I have high IQ but the drama was just getting to me very much get to me um I just had bigger goals and fruitions and I’m working towards retirement I do not need any distraction right now you know I’m working towards opening up my laundry mat and I know I can do it you know MH I just got to keep a clear mind M OCD by the way nice to meet you let me tell you more about myself I’m OCD so I have to only focus on one thing at a time and I cannot have stress in my life whatsoever for me to be my best and just work on my goals um so I’m working towards opening a laundry mat by the end of this year which I know I can do I can obvious like I can easily do if I just have a more peaceful environment so let me tell you this is why I like Bellas she is a great human being she does not tolerate [ __ ] just like I do not you give one letter attitude uh be a bully get out not work hard enough get out not be successful get probably should change get out but probably should change uh your career like where go somewhere where you where you are successful I just like so many things that she we we have the same mindset we we’re both going towards the same goal to the same uh end point end in points and I like that about her I met her during covid but I came you know I went back to to that place because I just it was closer for me to be near home and stuff like that but it wasn’t worth it yeah yeah well that’s very interesting to hear and like I say it’s right on par with a lot of the other experiences that I’ve heard uh talking to different people um you know so um what do what do you think the craziest thing in your six years what’s the craziest thing that happened obviously Lamar odm overdosing is up there at The Love Ranch but like what do you think’s the craziest thing that’s ever happened and I don’t know probably just curious I feel like what’ you say the shooting shooting probably a guy was was trying to you know first himself on one of the girls I don’t know if we experienced a lot but there was nothing too crazy for me honestly like yeah some some D trying to take off the condom trying to force himself on one of the girls she was very little too and him having to get kicked out naked that that was pretty crazy but there wasn’t anything too dramatic you know yeah nothing like uh I was reading this book um NY County brothel Wars you see this they burned down a brothel which is pretty crazy so nothing that crazy right which one the chicken ranch it got burned down before yep it got burned down once so if you see here the Knight the chicken ranch burned down you see that at the top H yeah crazy that’s what this book is about um yeah pretty crazy but you never saw anything that crazy no burning down not really it was just no not that crazy it was just pettiness and any overdoses I’ve heard about overdoses okay so nobody like the six years I was there nobody died overdosing but There Was You know what I kind of give them credit for this one they usually do not keep the drug users for too long um it kind of there was this girl who who did too much of whatever chemical she’s using I’m very against drugs I’m very drug free I’m against drugs that’s who I am as a person except weed weed you could smoke weed is not a drug um she barricaded herself in her room when she was tweaking out um and they they had to barge into the room and kick her out there was another girl who overose and had a seizure in there um they called the ambulance for her but fired her um they kind of like if you go too extreme they kind of do get r of you or end their contract with you rather so that was yeah there was this girl who I was friendly with she was a sweetheart she was just dealing with a lot or whatever and she she did to much and she’s started having a seizure I guess wow and they had to call the ambulance for her but we never like she they just soak her out of there like the ambulance soak her and she never came back they just let her go yeah is does it take long for the ambulance to get there no oh I didn’t know since it’s like out in the middle of the desert you know it’s it’s not in the like Carson City is like 10 minutes away and it’s town and there’s a hospital in there yeah yeah yeah gotcha well interesting um so what are some other really good things that that that you’d like about your new place compared to um you know the old place you mentioned that there’s a lot of good things going on there I like that she actually is more of an independent contractor she says you work with her rather than work for her which makes more sense because I’m a business woman I’ve always been I was independent for four years with stock market dudes working the stock market dudes before I came into the broal I only came into the broos because I figured out that I was so good at this I I don’t know why if that’s a good thing or a bad thing I don’t know but I’m good at it but regardless and I like that she works with me she is more the we’re both working towards the same goal she wants to retire I’m going to retire so we have something in common to each other uh I’m working on towards um getting a laundry M multiple real estates this this and this stock market I want to have a bigger amount stock markets couple real estates a laundry M that’s my goal laundry M by the end of this year um she treats you like an appendic contractor you do not have to do all this shift thing it’s a 24 hours house for the girls that need the 24 hours but I work how I would like to work which is booking my Employments meeting my my clients doing my running my own business it’s just I’m part of her establishment and I like that I like that very much that’s awesome I did really well uh last month in like couple weeks I’m at $54,000 seeing barely that many clients and I’m so appreciative that my clients followed me to to further away I like that yeah that’s cool that’s really cool that shows how good you must be um hey a sweetheart I know this this interview has been a lot of negativity no hey you know what like I appreciate you call for like listening to me and my like negative energy but I’m not that type of person I’m a very positive person I like good energy and stuff like that so sorry we had to talk about that you guys I’m a very no and I my viewers I think know uh especially the ones watching this series what you just said is not negative you’re being honest and what you’re saying is you want a posit somebody got to do it you want a positive working envir environment so yeah somebody’s got to do it don’t don’t apologize for being honest I wanted to take a moment to ask you an interesting question um I recently read this article which I think you shared actually so you you might be familiar with this as well um love fading what’s become of the notorious love ranch brothel apparently this woman or right some woman bought this brothel um Janet Jensen have you heard of this no it’s not a women it’s an organization that’s against sex workers that are trying to shut down but this no the surprising part to me is like they spent a million3 $3,000 a million3 to to uh just buy off this this brothel and then shut it down this is like it’s not making sense to me are these like um non-tracking or whatever they want to call them themselves organization they have 1.3 million just laying around yeah that’s crazy so they bought out yeah I know my marketing dude was telling me about it and he said that like the the love wrench was sold to them um for them to just shut it back down I guess interesting well and and I just that that’s what I was going to ask because the love ranch seemed to be so close to the other two brothels like literally they were all in like the same cue saac so that’s what I was going to ask you is like that’s kind of crazy if somebody that’s anti- sex work bought the it’s an organization it’s a sex trafficking organization that bought it interesting do you think they’re going to turn it into like a a house like a they’re going to say like a house for the people to leave the brothel and come into that or something like that nobody gives a [ __ ] about you no sorry to say it that way but none of these organizations really care about you like that they’re a nonprofit organization to collect money they don’t they don’t really help the girls they do not find you they do not pay your mortgage they do not pay your your car note they do not pay your phone grocery bills they do not put foot in your table they just say oh sex trafficking organization help girls get out the business it’s all [ __ ] I am speaking my mind today I don’t know why hey like I said you got to be honest you know so yeah well again what my question Cole what’s no I really like I’m I’m really curious because this part I I don’t know about so did the owner because the owner of all these four brothel that are up here she’s the same owner for that one too why did she sell it to to um an organ organization that she knows is anti-trafficking did she know about it maybe not but maybe it was just so much money that she needed it I don’t know but it’s not a lot of money that’s that’s the point because Dennis sold the alien cut house for 2 million she only sold it for 1.3 yeah that is interesting right and it’s right in that culde saac like I said that’s what’s crazy to hear about that that’s why I want to ask you about that no no no this is not in the coldest act the one in the coldest SEC is love rench North this one is D oh love rench South yeah I misunderstood thank you thank you which is closer to Vegas it’s a very profitable house it’s like an hour from Vegas it’s a very very profitable house like why would she sell it to an anti-sex trafficking sex anti- adult industry organization I don’t know none of my business but yeah still it’s an interesting interesting question it is yeah well what are some other things that that you like about this new place I want to make sure to give you the opportunity you you felt you felt like we were being negative I don’t think we were being negative I think we were being honest but what are just to be positive maybe what are some things that you like about this place compared to you know maybe the other places you work I like having my own um I want to work this time this is the time I’m going to take off without being pressured to work without having a a 12 hours 14 hours shift I know how to run my business I like money I like a lot of money let me run my business how I choose to I’m an independent contractor I will make it profitable for both of us I understand the houses take half of my money but I I like bigger numbers so it’s going to be profitable anyways I like the it’s not no shift charged I mean no like uh shift pressured on you I like that I can come and go as often as I’d like I like that I can have a life without being there all the time like whenever I need a break I can just leave which was kind of you have to put time off whatever whatever I like that she doesn’t tolerate [ __ ] which these big houses that I’ve been at the past six years they’re more of quantity rather than quality you understand yeah so they they just it’s a big house they have to have at least I don’t know 12 to 15 to 20 to 25 girls there at this at at all times right because there’s a [ __ ] ton of rooms so they have to fill in the rooms and they will fill in the rooms with whatever trash that they find no offense trash but no offense um so this this new establishment that I work at there’s five girls and I want to I just it’s a smaller house more like you don’t you don’t fit in you’re you’re being an [ __ ] you’re doing the bully [ __ ] that the none needed energy get out which just happened this month there was some girl there who just was rude as [ __ ] and um had a really bad attitude and just negative energy yeah she was just like you got to go you know and and it was it was yes see boom there you go we get that out the way now let’s get it let’s get into this money you know like let’s let’s start advertising start marketing oh yeah yeah and I’m I mean it sounds like you’ve always made good money but I’m curious I went to the Bunny Ranch on a Saturday night and it was dead like there was like one other guy in there um is that normal or did I go on the wrong night I am this is why I like to do a lot of social media and I know you see me I’m on Twitter I’m on YouTube I’m on Tik Tok I’m on Reddit I’m on my website like I like to do more social media and I don’t really rely on walking too much oh I very much rely on appointments so so walking it could it could be there or could not be there it’s you know it’s whatever to me but I Rely mostly on appointments interesting yeah it’s not usually um like quiet like um right now we’re averaging like uh five walking 10 walking but I don’t really like walking I like to do appointments only yeah yeah when I walked in they asked me if I had an appointment so that’s interesting so maybe there were other girls there that like were just like nah I ain’t doing lineup tonight I only do appointments maybe they were just like chilling I guess so um I people curious though like was it what’s that sorry I was just gonna say I have clients come see me from California seatt the East Coast I’ve had clients come see me from Canada I’ve had clients come see me from Mexico um I’ve had clients come from all over haven’t had overseas yet oh actually I have had England um cool interesting I know right I’m like you guys don’t get [ __ ] over there jaky I’m joking but yeah interesting um what were we just talking about before that I’m sorry you were saying that the girls were in oh oh I meant to ask you has it always been that slow on Walkins like like we Walkin like has it always been that you would do it by appointment or like did it used to be back in the day maybe that like there was just so many people walking in then like um you get what I’m asking yeah I do but like has it changed you’re talking about like how you focus on doing social media and stuff and you don’t Focus so much on Walkins I’m asking you was there ever a time where Walkins were like the main way that people made money um I mean you got you gotta do a little bit of both okay yeah that makes sense that’s why you have to put yourself out there that’s why I’m doing all these podcasts I have another podcast after this um you got to put yourself out there you cannot rely on walk all the time because like most of the country doesn’t even know that we have like legal prostitution and in Nevada like a lot of a lot of them don’t know when I was independent in New York I uh did the websites um all the websites you know Eros forefer 411 trist Sela like that that was how we did business back then and we just you know post an ad take beautiful pictures professional pictures post get a little bit of your personality into the to your bio or whatever and that was how you did business you just posted to yourself um Bros you don’t have like because you do understand we are in the middle of nowhere we are we are in the middle the desert so you’re not going to have like 50 people walk in in a day it’s just not possible yeah you know it is absolutely not possible so you have to rely on uh getting yourself out there you have to you know be all over social medias be all over articles newspapers all of this stuff and that’s what I’m trying to do more of now that I have the feel right right to do that because I felt like I was held back I was held back so that’s what I was going to ask why do you think because those places that you used to go to I feel like used to believe in what you’re doing right now why do you think they don’t want to do that anymore no it was what do you mean never uh didn’t want to do that anymore it’s not that didn’t want to do that anymore it was it was more like they never wanted to no I mean like I I was let me give you an example call so there’s this guy right he’s very very popular on on YouTube right and he has a great following on YouTube and he makes documentaries about like forbidden uh businesses like escorts stuff like that it’s like Vice he’s really like Vice um and he had wanted to come see me and do a documentary with me at my former place when I asked it was like kind of basically no no you cannot do that you know and I really wanted to do that yeah and I was told basically no it was like you have to to to get this person’s permission you have to wait be after election there was some election [ __ ] going on you have to wait after election I don’t give a [ __ ] about election I’m not political you know what the [ __ ] does that have to do with me yeah some election thing it was November and I was told no so I’m like you made me miss an opportunity yeah why do you think they don’t want to do that because I’ve been told that too and in fact I even asked can I come to the Bunny Ranch and do like a thing and they said no we don’t we don’t want to do that right now because they don’t want nobody to speak up yeah you think they all feel the way about the environment because why do you have to be why is it such a terrible environment why is it such a terrible environment why is everybody so depressed why is everybody so sad why is everybody so toxic all the time yeah why are we slaves are do you guys feel like slaves do you guys have some emotion deep emotional um Whatchamacallit like damage for you guys to be that nasty all the time we got too deep Cole we got too deep hey it’s okay that’s what that’s what we do you know um well that’s so cool that things you’re in a place that is better um but that is crazy to hear and and I that’s how I felt like why else let me put it this way Kiki do no talk about your experience sure sure but I was going to say really quickly why else would you um say no unless you had something to hide you know what I mean because when I went there to answer your question about my experience driving up there was there were signs that said free tours no sex required you can drink at the bar I think one of the signs said and that’s kind of what I wanted to do I just kind of wanted to drink at the bar and get a tour and just say that I’ve been there and so I went to the bar I went in they like I said they searched me there was a lineup and that was pretty overwhelming um to be honest even though I wasn’t actually picking a girl you know like uh but they made me pick a girl like which was I thought that I was allowed to just go get a drink but they made me pick a girl and um she was nice and everything um but she didn’t want to give me a tour I asked her if I could get a tour and she’s like yeah you can get a tour to my bedroom and I was like all right then this other girl ended up being nice to me and gave me a tour she was like yeah let me go get my shoes let me go get a different you know change of shoes and then she took me on a tour and that was that was basically it nobody was there um really there was this one other dude there like I said but I think he picked a girl and went back and did his thing but um yeah I kind of got out of there there was a lot of girls there though I mean too many yeah yeah it was like I said kind of overwhelming when um they walked out and like all said their names so yeah I’m sorry you experienced that like it’s if it’s advertise free tourist at least give him a tour yeah and the other thing that I time like who wants to to go to an establishment with with with the working girls are just rude and disrespectful and and just have an attitude like who wants to go there I was gonna say there was one instance in where she was rude so like I this wasn’t on her originally but it ended up being because I just so let me just so I sat at the bar got a drink and um the bartender was like all right it’s $6 and I was like cool and then he asked the girl what kind of drink she was and I just figured she was going to have a drink with me whatever and then so I gave him $6 and he said I said $12 and I said you said six he said yeah six for you 12 for the round and I was like oh I’m getting her drink like he didn’t even ask me he just told me you know what I mean and then so I was like whatever you know whatever I’ll pay $6 so that I can stay in here I just wanted to kind of experience it have a beer inside of the Bunny Ranch and then when I ended up kind of revealing to this girl that you know I did I wasn’t interested in talking to her about you know negotiating or whatever and I just kind of in pass said you know I didn’t realize I was buying you a drink like I wasn’t complaining about it I wasn’t complaining about it I was just like laughing about it I was like ha I thought she noticed what happened so I was like haha wasn’t that so funny how like I only gave him $6 but he said 12 and she was like yeah well you should buy a lady a drink and I was just like she was like really rude about it and I was just like that’s not what I was saying I was happy to buy you a drink I didn’t complain about buying you a drink I was just saying wasn’t that funny that I didn’t realize I was buying you a drink drink and she was so rude about it but whatever you know um yeah I don’t expect you have anything to say about that that’s funny yeah well hey I don’t want to you got did you get a tour did you end up getting a tour yeah I got a tour and it was pretty cool um it was crazy the horses aren’t there anymore and and um you know those horses did not belong to the establishment oh belong to the girl that’s no longer there if she had to walk away from 1.2 million you know [ __ ] is [ __ ] yeah damn yeah she walked away like who in their right mind walks away from 1.2 million at one of her YouTube videos she said it’s it’s a competitive environment okay like competition is competi but being rude as [ __ ] and disrespectful and your life is is being threatened like the fing girl there was there was this girl I met at at the my former place and she was moved there because she felt so unsafe at the the one you want to she was shoulder checked by the Felon girl like she was bumped on on on her shoulder like shoulder checked yeah yeah and it’s like why was the person even there if you can tell they are mentally unstable and aggressive and threatening they shouldn’t have been there from the Geto and I feel like I don’t know something got to change like we have to do a mental evaluation before you hire I’m nobody like I’m just a sex worker just trying to make my money and go home but I just feel like these establishment for them to get rid of the toxicity and to make them a safe environment to work in they should have a mental evaluation for girls before they hire them I know it’s like just Wishing Upon a Star it’s never gonna happen yeah but not you can’t just bring in every trash that you find and expected to to to be like this glamorous butterflies and rainbows kind of environment yeah have you ever which was what I was expecting like I was expecting glamorous butterflies and rainbows I do not have to socialize with my the other workers I do not do two girls because I’m very safe and none of the girls work like I do like some girls do risky activities I don’t and I’ve have been told from the girl’s mouth oh I offer this for 5,000 couple thousands extra oh I did this and I don’t I do not offer two girls because at the end of the day my safety is number one priority yeah are you saying like they offer extra for like no condom or something like that yeah um have you ever heard of like car play before yeah yeah what does it mean you’re doing it in the car but you have to book an update for them oh gotcha gotcha I thought I thought that that wasn’t allowed or something like that no you would have like you can take out the girls or just couple um like there’s thousands minimum to be able to take the girl out the house but I just felt so uncomfortable like when girls telling me they do this they do that and I’m just like that’s at some point I used to do three SS you know I used to uh let this girl lick me let that girl lick me there was like two of them that did that to me and then afterwards she opened up to me and thought we would was friendly for her to open up to me and tell me that she offered [ __ ] that’s when I stopped doing two girls because not not everybody works how I work I cannot trust I cannot trust you or anybody as a matter of fact so that’s why I don’t do two girls yeah yeah makes sense this is a tell all likeit all yeah no and the reason I asked I wasn’t trying to ask you just to be clear for my listeners like I wasn’t trying to ask you because I didn’t know that that was just called carplay I wasn’t asking you that just to ask you if you’re familiar I was told that sometimes customers will ask that in order to like take the sale outside of the brothel so that the brothel doesn’t have to take half of it or something like that oh my God sorry I keep cutting you off but oh my God you have no idea how many girls I’ve seen still from the BR you have no idea and you know what’s so funny the funny part to me is six years this how I know I’m a good person I’m [ __ ] it’s a pleasure to [ __ ] have me six years I’ve never stole a dime from them I turned all my tips and it’s I’m not saying it to brag or just make myself look like an angel I just wanted all my money to be legal because I had to I wanted to get my business faster so I can get on with my life I’ve never stole from them I’ve I’ve turned in any every [ __ ] dime that I’ve ever made there like I would get a $20 tip here you go give me 10 of it you know and you have no idea how many girls I’ve seen take clients like this girl just a couple weeks ago before I left some some girl like um there was a $122,000 client she’s like oh yeah I’m going to see him in California I’m like but at the same time you’re taking away from me now it’s not just the broel like when you’re not here because she goes she goes home like that client should come here come back to the establishment you’re not here that means you know like that means he has I have more opportunities so it it took me I found that so offensive to me as well like I hate it when the girls would tell me oh I took this client out oh I took that client out so I don’t have to get a CZ so I can get all the money it’s like [ __ ] you offended me too because if you’re not here I that that money should be you know stay in the house and I’m in the house yeah so it bothered me too like there’s so many girls that steal clients I never did that because I was trying to get as much legal money as possible yeah do they ever are you able do they book like do people call and be like hey I want a girl to come to Chicago and do they just run their credit card over the phone or something technically you can only book in Nevada that’s all I’m gonna say gotcha I had heard that they that they do that though I never seen it no never seen it just for like maybe friends or whatever friends of friends like not for everybody it’s not like I could call up and be like hey I want a girl to come to Chicago but like are you offering a 100,000 that’s what I’m saying it would be like a that’s what I’m saying that’s all I’m gonna say are you like do you have a $100,000 on the book right you know right then you could maybe run my card over the phone yeah can I have no I’m I’m joking but you know we’re not allowed to cross state lines but you know 100,000 200,000 yeah yeah no that’s what I had heard so I yeah that’s what I figured you know that you can technically I’ve never seen it first I’ve never seen it firsthand I’ve never experienced it firsthand mhm I heard things and I pay attention to my environment I like pick up information but I’ve never seen it with my own eyes firstand yeah well hey I want to thank you for being willing to talk about as much as you were able we’re willing to talk about today it really means a lot to me because um like I say I am a firm supporter of this and I just think that it sounds like some people aren’t doing it the right right way and that’s that’s why I felt it was important to be honest today because we both agree this should be a thing you know weed should be legal like you said earlier and sex work should I didn’t say I not like an aggressive drug oh okay yeah you did say that we is legal so should sex work honestly like I have an opinion about that too we is legal why can’t sex work be legal independently true yeah and that’s actually some of the girl one of the girls I spoke to she said she makes more money independently but again like you said that’s not legal yeah you get arrested you can’t put your your money in the bank because it’s money like I want to put 50,000 a month in my bank account that’s money laundering that’s the IRS off to you that’s too many issues yeah and I guess that’s a good final question I’ve heard that uh that when you do taxes did you know that you can file deductions on like the clothes you buy and stuff like that yeah Co I wanted to make I wanted to make sure other girls maybe that are listening to this right now knew that too because some girls don’t know that and so how do you do that do you like keep a running total of all the the equipment you purchase basically I claimed $60,000 in deductibles last year from clothes from makeup from uh toiletries from celles phone uh food that you have to buy at the establishment while you at work um condoms Lubes toys all of it is it’s all equipment right just like exactly just like if you cut hair and anything else you write that stuff off when you buy you know new equipment so yeah well this this was um I feel like you were my therapist tonight I just got it all off my chest but that’s just like the the Iceberg of it there’s like so much deeper it goes deep well let’s keep in touch and I hope that that I can come and meet you in person at Bella’s aenda because it sounds like they are cool um and I’m talking to yeah so I’m I’m really excited and it’s gonna be all positive energy all good all perfect I will show you the house without you can buy me a drink yeah well I can choose buy you a drink can I have a glass of wine or champagne sure absolutely I’m to a sweetheart but no seriously like you are very welcome uh my work establishment now I uh it’s a beautiful house I would love to tell you all the history behind the house I’ve learned a little couple things and it it is a bit further but you like it we all CH I’ll wear I’ll wear my cowboy outfit so all right Kiki well hey thank you and uh we’ll see you next time on on the show before before we go Kiki wanted to uh shout out the Twitter again hey let’s display it for the people that are watching and why don’t you say it for our listeners where they where can they find you online so you can follow me on my Twitter at Kiki lover King and if you’d like to get to know me in person and speaks to me face to face my email is kikil lover kinky icloud.com absolutely and what’s your website kikiloverkink.net sweet there it is oh I was say I I was about to say maybe I shouldn’t click on that something that I can’t show on YouTube might pop up just picture of me getting the water because it it was a really hot day I bet thank you Dar yep thank you you take care bye folks I hope you found value in this episode of the cole memo I’ll come back with more uh on this if I’m able to but I just want to let you know that from what I understand uh Kiki is no longer in the licensed in legal sex industry within Nevada at all anymore um I talk about that with Bella her current employer in an upcoming episode you can stay tuned for that it’ll be released at thecolememo.com/sex so stay tuned for that and hopefully I can reconnect with Kiki to see why exactly she left but I will leave you with this um she has made it very clear on her social media uh that it doesn’t seem like she quite enjoyed the legal brothel system if her posts are still up you will be able to see what I mean by that and I might even share some at the end of this podcast visually um I believe I’ve come across a few that tend to make my point um folks stay well I hope you enjoyed this episode of the co memo and please check out the rest of our uh series on the legal sex industry in Nevada at thecolememo.com/sex